DON'T SPEND TIME WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

by Hairyhegoat 62 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Hairyhegoat
    Hairyhegoat

    These comments and the references to the old publications are a true find. Have a read of this and you will never become one of the JW'S!

    Don't associate with outsiders (non-Jehovah's Witnesses). You are too busy for that! Watchtower, 2/1/74, p.93.

    Association with non-Jehovah's Witness kids should be limited to trying to convert them. Your Youth-Getting the Best Out of It. 1976, p. 65.

    Remember, you are to have "no association" with non-Jehovah's Witness friends or relatives. If they are honest and moral, that still does not make any difference. Watchtower, 2/15/60, pp. 112-113.

    BEING A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, RULE OUT SCHOOL SPORTS!

    Listen! "it is expected" that you will have no extra-curricular activities outside of the Watchtower. Such activity is a "danger" and "worldly". Organized to Accomplish OurMinistry 1983, p. 133.

    To play sports with children that are not Jehovah's Witnesses is definitely "unwholesome"! School and Jehovah's Witnesses, 1983, p.23.

    You are reminded that involvement in after-school sports tie you down, requiring you to spend evenings and weekends playing on a school team. You are expected to be at the lectures at the Kingdom Hall. "Any recreation you take outside of school should not be with worldly youths." Watchtower, 9/1/64, p.535.

    IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING SOME HOBBY CLUB, THINK OF ALL THE WORLDLY PEOPLE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE AROUND!

    Hobby clubs lead to immoral character and might keep you away from the Kingdom Hall. School and Jehovah's Witnesses, 1983, pp.24.25.

    They become "worldly alliances". The Watchtower asks you, is it "wise to enjoy hobbies with worldly people?" And "would it be proper to share hobbies with worldlings?" Watchtower, 9/1/64, p.536.

    REMEMBER, THE LIMITATIONS INCLUDE THE GIRLS TOO!

    Cheerleaders lead people into "frenzied cheering ... hero worship ... glorifying humans." School and Jehovah's Witnesses, 1983, pp.23-24. Never become a homecoming queen! This would 'set up womanhood upon a pedestal." Watchtower, 6/15/64, p.381.

    IT WON'T HELP TO CRY TO YOUR PARENTS OVER CELEBRATIONS!

    Birthdays, Christmas, Easter, Mother's Day and National Holidays are all condemned. School and Jehovah's Witnesses, 1983, pp. 17-21.

    In fact, the month Of May of Mother's Day is understood to be named after Maia, a demon worshiped by the pagans. . . . "' (Awake 5/8/1956, p. 25)

    MUCH OF WHAT WE DO IS PAGAN AND TO BE AVOIDED

    Wedding rings have possible pagan origins." (WT 1/15/1972 p.63)

    "We all need to face up to the fact that Christmas and its music are not from Jehovah, the God of truth. Then what is their source? ... Satan the Devil."(WT 12/15/1983, p. 7)

    THIS IS GOOD!

    Non-team competition you can play includes hiking, handball and badminton or pitching horseshoes. Your Youth-Getting the Best Out of it 1976, p. 123.

    DO NOT GO OUT FOR LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL!

    The Watchtower Society agrees with the psychologist who says little league baseball should be avoided, too competitive. (Your Youth-Getting the Best Out of it 1976, p. 118.)

    Non team competition you can play includes hiking , handball, badminton, and pitching horseshoes." (Your youth-getting the best out of it,1976 p.123)

    We can see the control that is exhibited over others lives all for God.

    DO NOT PLAY CHESS. IT IS LIKE WAR!

    The real danger of playing chess is it's military nature, the equivalent of the maneuvers enacted by little boys with toy soldiers. Awake !, 3/22/73, pp.12-14.

    WHY DO YOU NEED SELF-DEFENSE?

    Karate, judo or other martial arts is a violent measure and would bring you under the judgement of the elders. Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All the Flock 1981, p. 150.

    DO NOT GO TO THE ZOO!

    Zoos are cruel punishment and a prison to animate. You would not want to go gawk at the animals. Watchtower, 11/15/49, p.349; Awake, 5/8/73, p. 18.

    HIGHER EDUCATION IS BAD!

    No Jehovah's Witness should want to go to college. Rather, work in the Watchtower Organization! Watchtower,9/1/75, p.543; Pay Attention to Yourselves and to All theFlock, 1977, p. 105..

    Do not pursue higher education. There is very little time left! Make pioneer service, the full-time ministry with the possibility of Bethel or missionary service, your goal.WT 3/15/1969, p. 171

    What about professional careers? The position has not changed. If you are a young person thinking about a career-forget it. The end will be "in a few years". Do you remember expecting the end by the mid-1970's. Awake!, 5/22/69, p. 15.

    Professional people, doctors and lawyers are often "inconsiderate of others" due to their undesirable higher education. Awake!, 918168, p.1 0. It is foolish to want to be a doctor or a lawyer. Watchtower, 8/1/75, p.451.

    NO TAKING A BLOOD TRANSFUSION TO SAVE A LIFE

    "In view of the seriousness of taking blood into the human system by a transfusion, would violation of the Holy Scriptures in this regard subject the dedicated, baptized receiver of blood transfusion to being disfellowshiped from the Christian congregation?" "The inspired Holy Scriptures answer yes." (The Watchtower, January 15, 1961, p. 63)

    "Similarly, God's command to 'abstain from blood' rules out ingesting it by the mouth as well as through injections into the veins. Furthermore, the Bible makes it clear that the divine law was not to be ignored even during an emergency that could threaten life. (1 Sam. 14:31-35) Many of God's approved servants have been willing to face dangers and even death rather than violate Scriptural principles and their integrity to Jehovah." (The Watchtower, June 15, 1978, p.24)

    . . . "So their everlasting destiny is tied up in their faithfulness to Jehovah. This includes their being obedient to what he says about blood." (The Watchtower, June 15, 1978, p.24)

    IF YOUR FAMILY IS SPLIT FROM THE KINGDOM HALL, HATE YOUR FAMILY!

    CHILDREN ARE SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS

    Children should get away from disfellowshipped parents as soon as they are old enough to leave. (Watchtower, 11/15/52, p. 703. )

    Children should get away from disfellowshipped parents as soon as they are old enough to leave. (Watchtower, 11/15/52, p. 703. )

    If a child of someone is disfellowshipped from the Kingdom Hall, the parent is to refuse to listen to the child's reason.( Organization forKingdom-Preaching and Disciple-Making1972, p. 173.)

    Disfellowshipped children, legally of age will be kicked out of the home. (Watchtower, 11/15/52, p. 703. )

    ADULTS ARE TO BE REJECTED

    "If a JW joins another religion, an announcement is made to the congregation to stop associating with him." (WT 10/15/1986 p.31)

    Jehovah's Witnesses are to hate people who do bad. Watchtower, 7/15/61, p.420.

    If someone used to be a Jehovah's Witness, "We must hate in the truest sense, which is to regard with extreme ~ active aversion, to consider as loathsome, odious, filthy, to detest." Watchtower, 10/1/52, p.599.

    a disfellowshipped relative who does not live in the same home, contact with him is also kept to what is absolutely necessary ... even curtailed completely if at all possible.WT 7/15/1963, p. 443

    They are to be hated "in the sense of avoiding them as we would poison or a poisonous snake." Watchtower, 6/15/80, p.8.

    "in order to hate what is bad a Christian must hate the person" WT 7/15/1961, p. 420

    All one needs to do is ask those who were once part of this so called Gods Organization and hear how they were treated when they left for good reasons. The evidence is overwhelming that they are shunned and hated hardly a Christian attitude.

    This is not from me but from another site and I think it sums up the WTBTS very well. I hope this info makes some lurkers think as you are not able to get your hands on these old publications anymore.

    HHG

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  • Chemical Emotions
    Chemical Emotions

    I already know this all, but thanks for posting! It may well help those who are considering becoming a JW.

  • steve2
    steve2

    THanks HHG. It vividly shows that the so-called çrack-down on bad associations is NOT a recent internet-phobic phenomenon. It isn't at all. Loved the quotes from the 1970s publications; I remember them well because they were repeated often to me by joyless JWs during my own adolescence.

  • carla
    carla

    thanks.

  • jean-luc picard
    jean-luc picard

    Just stand over there in the corner, put your hands on your head and DONT TOUCH ANYTHONG (oops sorry, a freudian slip) I meant ANYTHING

  • Crisis of Conscience
    Crisis of Conscience

    Great list Hairyhegoat, even if it's not yours. Thanks!

    CoC

  • luna2
    luna2

    I remember those talks and articles. AFter they get you away from anybody normal, then they start on having you judge your fellow JWs for worthiness. so that everybody in the congregation is eyeing everyone else and trying to judge if they are good enough to associate with. Its all very limiting and isolating. JWs like to talk love, but there is little of that in evidence. There is lots of judgement and self-righteousness though. Kind of like the classic small town full of gossip and backbiting, only worse.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Don't associate with outsiders (non-Jehovah's Witnesses). You are too busy for that! Watchtower, 2/1/74, p.93.

    NOT TRUE! NO SUCH STATEMENT!

    Association with non-Jehovah's Witness kids should be limited to trying to convert them. Your Youth-Getting the Best Out of It. 1976, p. 65.

    NOT TRUE! NO SUCH STATEMENT!

    Remember, you are to have "no association" with non-Jehovah's Witness friends or relatives. If they are honest and moral, that still does not make any difference. Watchtower, 2/15/60, pp. 112-113.

    ONCE AGAIN.....NO SUCH STATEMENT!

    I'm not going to bother checking references for any more of these. HHG, I'm afraid this is worse than what the WT does in quoting references.

    Unfortunately , this is an example that will be used by JWs to prove that apostates outright LIE and MISQUOTE what has been published.

  • undercover
    undercover

    NOT TRUE! NO SUCH STATEMENT!

    Is it possible that they are not word for word quotes but a summary of the paragraph or article?

    Maybe this would be a good thread to post the actual WT quote for each reference given to compare. This can be example of how 'apostates' do not outright lie and misquote but research and study to make sure they have their facts in order.

  • besty
    besty

    another JWN sensationalist poster hits credibility ground zero.

    exactly how difficult is it to check a single reference before posting pasting 50 of them....?

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