Am I mistaken or are these stupid mistakes on watchtower.org?

by WontLeave 37 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Anony Mous

  If you follow the bible reading schedule the FD&S had you read for this week. I did discuss with an 'old faithful' the contradictions and reasons in the accounts:

  - Judas leaving (or not) is a big one

  - When did Jesus overturn the tables in the temple? According to how the WT puts it in their order of events, Matthew 21 wasn't written chronologically either - they take out the overturning of the tables to the next day and put the praising of the babes with the entrance in Jerusalem for no apparent reason, maybe to make it fit with another gospel account?

  - The fig tree account in Matthew and Mark contradict. Matthew said immediately, Mark says the next day. Either way, what was the point since it wasn't the season yet, Jesus threw a hissy fit?

  - Why does it seem in the gospels that Jesus set himself up for his execution by getting bolder and bolder by the day. First he was a bringer of love and peace, trying to reason with the religious leaders and now the Pharisees are sons of Satan, hypocrites and he himself proclaims himself to be of divine origin more and more.
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  TheLoveDoctor

  what about the statement in one of last years study artcle that evidently Jesus did not partake that. to me since he also must celabrate the passover and that he is instituting something that he and his apostles would be part of he must have partook?
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  DagothUr

  Damn Jdubs, they screwed the Memorial! Can't they do anything right? Well, to get it good I have to spend this night too, from sunset to 2AM, in the company of demons and porn starlets! I should start checking my collection of horror movies right away.
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  exwhyzee

  what about the statement in one of last years study artcle that evidently Jesus did not partake that. to me since he also must celabrate the passover and that he is instituting something that he and his apostles would be part of he must have partook?

  It would make sense that he didn't partake. Why he would need to "ymbolically" consume his own blood/body or take advantage of his own sacrafice the same as his apostles would ?
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  undercover

  I think that there is some disagreement over the exact order of events. I did a Google survey (because all the scriptures just confuse me...), and it seems there are opinions both ways within many different religions. I wouldn't consider that a stupid mistake to hold an opinion held by many people... Which is correct, I don't know. Personally, I think the accounts are flawed because the events never happened.

  Yes, there are disagreements among scholars and other religions on whether Judas was there or not. One notion is that Luke's account was not written in chronological order.

  But - the WTS claims to accept the Bible as the inerrant word of God, the final authority in doctrine. If that is the case and we read that Judas did not leave until after, then he didn't leave until after...Period.

  Unfortunately, the WT, thus with the JWs in tow, will trot out findings by scholars who actually support the notion that Judas left before. They will adhere to that notion that the account is not in chronological order in order to bolster their need for the emblems to be parkaken of only by the faithful.

  The WTS conveniently forgets that they accep the Bible as final authority on a subject and allow "worldly" scholars who happen to agree with them to support their belief.

  For the WTS, Judas has to have left before or the ritual of the new covenant is worthless. If Jesus knew Judas was going to betray him, yet allowed him to partake, then its meaning loses all significance. That means that anyone today, annointed or not, JW or not, could partake and it wouldn't change anything as to how and what it's about.

  The Nisan 14/15 thing is confusing. The WTS has printed an explanation of why they go by Nisan 14 instead of 15. They use a form of calculation that (they claim) is older and thus more accurate than modern Jewish calenders. It's such a minor thing compared to other issues with the Memorial that, to me, it's not worth harping over. Either they're a day off, or the Jews are a day off. What's more troubling is trying to pinpoint the date comparing the different accounts. John's account doesn't line up exactly with Matthew/Marks (or is Lukes?). If you want to argue about a day, start with the discrepency in the scriptures, not secular calenders.
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  tia.dalma
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  TheLoveDoctor

  Please follow this scripture it is the Passover meal/new covenant in one sitting and Jesus says this cup means the new covenant and Judas shared the meal all other gospel accounts are really not different the wt is deceptive by virtue of my blood and their celebrating the Passover was applied to the new covenant Jesus replaced the Passover

  Luke22:19-22) 19 Also, he took a loaf, gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “This means my body which is to be given in YOUR behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” 20 Also, the cup in the same way after they had the evening meal, he saying: “This cup means the new covenant by virtue of my blood, which is to be poured out in YOUR behalf. 21 “But, look! the hand of my betrayer is with me at the table. 22 Because the Son of man is going his way according to what is marked out; all the same, woe to that man through whom he is betrayed! (these verses show the new covenant was shared and Judas was there)
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  Mad Sweeney

  We know that scripture, Love Doctor. That's the entire point. The Borg twists it by saying Luke evidently wrote it NOT in chronological order. Why? What is their evidence? There isn't any. But if Luke is accurate, then their doctrine is wrong, which is impossible for a group of geriatric parasites living off of holy spirit.