June 1st public WT - Does God Have an Organization? (page 2)

miseryloveselders

Ya know something, I just got back from my lunch walk, and I couldn't stop thinking about this article. I'm under the impression after reading this, that articles such as this, are not really for the general public. If that's not the case, and these articles are for the public, then they're fishing for non-critical thinkers. The way the article is presented leads me to conclude that its really for the average JW, especially JWs that might be questioning this organization and its leaders. The criteria that they listed reminded me of a lasso to reign in any JWs who are thinking outside to box. The criteria selected were nothing more than reminders designed to get the reader back on the same page with the Borg Queen.

jonathan dough

Even if He did, it wouldn't be the WBTS due to their occult roots.

The documented historical connection with the occult is evident in several ways. Russell relied heavily on astrological predictions and signs of the zodiac. Rutherford believed that Jehovah most likely resided in the Pleiades constellation. Many of Rutherford and Russell's false predictions were calculated based on alignment and measurement of ancient Egyptian pyramids relying in essence on the powers of the occult. A small pyramid was erected next to Russell's grave as a memorial to his life and work. The satanic All-Seeing Eye of occult worship adorns Russell's memorial pyramid, and early Watchtower publications incorporate Masonic symbolism to a great degree. Furthermore, the Divine Plan of the Ages, an early Watchtower book, is adorned with the Winged Sun Disc, an Egyptian religious symbol of pagan origins and false worship.

The Jehovahs Witnesses can run from their occult past, but they can't hide. Nor can they sweep these truths under the rug of their New Light Doctrine. Due to such an un-biblical foundation that continued well into the 1920s, it is inconceivable that Jesus Christ chose the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society as their sole representatives on earth due to the purity of their faith.

http://www.144000.110mb.com/directory/occult_jehovahs_witnesses.html

sir82

articles such as this, are not really for the general public. If that's not the case, and these articles are for the public, then they're fishing for non-critical thinkers.

Yep. They've pretty much given up on recruiting westerners, and are directing their writings to appeal to ignorant & uneducated 3rd-worlders and immigrants from 3rd world countries.

Does a 3rd world dust farmer who eats 400 calories a day care if quotes in the Watchtower are unattributed? Does a Malaysian Air Jordan factory worker who earns 8 cents for 12 hour day care if scriptures are quoted out of context? No, they like the pretty pictures of a new world coming "soon" in which they can live like the rich Americans they see on the black & white TV that Jorge's uncle's girlfriend's neighbor has.

kjw53

The JW followers DO NOT worship the organization, The same holds true now as after Jesus died thats all, its the way it works-this is the correct pic:

God

Jesus

Apostles ( faithful slave )

Domestics

Jesus said he appointed the faithful slave over his domestics- They are not worshipped-that is an out and out lie-They dont even worship Jesus-They worship Jehovah alone. Any one says anything other than this is a liar.

PSacramento

So...when Russell, all disilusioned after the great disappointment, decided to find the truth for himself and started the bible students, Where did he find this "organization" that has always been there? who did he go to to get "the truth"?

blondie

Does Jehovah require an Organization?

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/organization.php

"Come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" - Watchtower 1981 November 15 p.212

The most important concept behind being a Jehovah's Witness is that you need to follow the Watchtower organization for salvation. This article shows that there is no legitimate basis for such a concept. Early Christians were organized into congregations, as are Christian religions today. For the spread of Christianity it may be necessary to create organizations. For example, in modern times religious groups often need to establish legal entities or organizations in order to purchase halls to meet in and for the publication of literature.

The Watchtower Society goes a step further by saying that being part of their particular Organization is an essential requirement of salvation. The leaders of the Watchtower Society (the Governing Body) are said to be appointed by Christ and the only means by which he directs his true followers today.

Jehovah?s organization alone

directed by God?s holy spirit

Watchtower

Governing Body

appointed through the holy spirit

Watchtower

instructions received from Jehovah

by means of

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Christ thus leads

by means

Governing Body

Examining the Scriptures Daily

This is the most significant concept behind being a Jehovah's Witness. Believing in God is not what makes a Witness unique, a large portion of people believe in God. Trusting in the Bible is not the key factor to being a Witness, as billions of people believe they follow the Bible. It is belonging to the "Organization" that distinguishes a Witness and makes them feel solely worthy of salvation. The necessity of belonging to an organization it a concept common amongst high control groups, and is important in building a member's high degree of conviction. The word organization appears 16,789 times on the 2006 Watchtower Library CD and yet the word organization never appears in the Bible.

This raises the following questions;

Is membership of an organization essential for salvation?
Has Jehovah always operated through an organization?
Did Jesus institute a Governing Body?

Requirement of Salvation

The Watchtower claims that belonging to an organization is essential for salvation.

To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it." Watchtower 1983 February 15 p.12

Yet the word "organization" never appears in the Bible, nor is it ever stated in either the Old or New Testaments that membership of an organization is a requirement of salvation. The Scriptures repeatedly state that it is faith in Jesus and the Father that results in everlasting life.

salvation

union with Christ

faith in him

have everlasting life

come to me

I am the door

belong to Christ

The Watchtower 1975 September 1 p.531 asks "Where could we turn if we would leave God's organization today? There is nowhere else! (John 6:66-69)". This quote refers to John 6:66-69 for support that there is no where other than the Organization. However, John makes a very different point:

John 6:68 "Simon Peter answered him: "?Lord, whomshall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.""

One can not help but wonder how Jesus feels having the Watchtower Society applying this Scripture to themselves, rather than to him.

Does God require an Organization?

As the word "organization" does not appear in the Bible, the Watchtower uses 1 Corinthians 14:33 - "God is a God, not of disorder, but of peace" - to indicate that an Organization is necessary. However, the existence of an organization does not guarantee order, nor is an organization a prerequisite for orderliness. This does not mean that organization is not necessary. People need to be organised for efficient operation of congregations and preaching. Rather, it is unquestioning allegiance to the leaders of an Organization that is not supported Scripturally.

In an attempt to enforce the authority of the Watchtower Society, articles claim God has always operated though a single organization.

always

one organization

not two or more Christian organizations

You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth

Bible history proves that this is not the case. For the majority of history God has not used any organization. He predominantly has operated through individuals, and has regularly dealt with more than one group at a time. Originally God dealt directly with Adam and Eve. He continued to deal directly with Abel, and also directly with the unrighteous man Cain. (Gen 4:15) For the next 2000 years there is no mention of any organization or intervention by God, except for when God deal with two individuals; Enoch and Noah.

After the flood Jehovah continued to deal with individuals rather than with an organization. He concurrently dealt separately with individuals such as Lot and Abraham.

Israel

There is only one period of time during which it can be claimed that God dealt with an organization. This was not until 2,500 years after the creation of mankind, with the formation of the Nation of Israel under Moses. Yet even whilst he dealt through this group, he continued to deal with individuals and other groups. What cannot be overlooked is that from the first leader and for most of its history, Israel were apostate rejecters of Jehovah.

During the time of the nation of Israel, Jehovah dealt with individuals not associated with the Israelites. For example, it was during this time that Jehovah was involved directly with Job, a man "blameless and upright, and fearing God and turning aside from bad? the greatest of all the Orientals. (Job 1:1-3)

After many decades, Jehovah instituted a King in Israel. This was not will, but because of their insistence on requiring a visible king. This desire for a human leader was considered a rejection of Jehovah, who stated:

"it is I whom they have rejected from being king over them" - 1 Samuel 8:7.

During the history of Israel, God did not deal only with the King. In fact Saul, the very first king, attempted to kill David and so David fled to live in the apostate land of Philistia with Achish the king of Gath, all the time protected by Jehovah. Jehovah also operated through Levites, the Priests and a variety of Bible writers of diverse stations. He regularly rose up independent prophets to chastise his erring kingly representative. Generally these individual prophets were sent by Jehovah to condemn the Israelites, which rejected them.

At the death of only the third king Jehovah foretold "Here I am ripping the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and I shall certainly give you ten tribes. And the one tribe is what will continue his for the sake of my servant David and for the sake of Jerusalem, the city that I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel." (1 Kings 11:31-32) After Solomon's death God proceeded to split the Israelites into two separate nations, each with their own priestly class. Until the destruction of Israel, Jehovah dealt with the Northern kingdom separately from the Southern kingdom.

For a short time after the fall of Jerusalem, God continued to deal directly with individuals, such as Daniel. After the release from Babylon, God was with Ezra and Nehemiah and was involved with the rebuilding of the temple. Then a period of 500 years ensued with no record of any intervention from God until the time of Jesus, no evidence that God actively dealt through this visible organization.

When Jesus arrived the temple was still in existence, the priesthood was still God's representative. The Jews were considered God's Nation until 70 A.D. However Jesus and his disciples publicly condemned the Priests, in effect setting up a second rival organization to the one still representing God.

While this second group was following Jesus, the Bible shows that there were individuals unattached to Jesus followers whose worship was also considered acceptable.

e tried to prevent him, because he was not accompanying us

he that is not against us is for us

YOU belong to Christ

Here Jesus shows that a person could belong to him without following the group of apostles. Belonging to an organization was not as important as it was to "belong to Christ".

After Jesus death, his disciples actively went against the nation of Israel and the high priest, even whilst they were still considered God's earthly representative. Acts 5:27-29 describes such an occasion;

"And the high priest questioned them and said: "We positively ordered YOU not to keep teaching upon the basis of this name, and yet, look! YOU have filled Jerusalem with YOUR teaching, and YOU are determined to bring the blood of this man upon us." In answer Peter and the [other] apostles said: "We must obey God as ruler rather than men."

How Directed?

"But in reply he said: ?I tell YOU, If these remained silent, the stones would cry out.?" - Luke 19:40

Presuming that God needs an earthly organization shows lack of faith in his ability to operate through individuals. Early Christians were not directed by an organization but by the words of Jesus and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

the spirit of the truth, he will guide YOU into all the truth

Jesus promised that he would direct his followers no matter how few were gathered together.

I am in their midst

It was under the guidance of Holy Spirit that followers of Jesus accomplished their work.

the power of holy spirit

Acts 2:1-4 describes the Holy Spirit speaking truth through 120 disciples and Acts 4:31 says;

"they were one and all filled with the holy spirit and were speaking the word of God with boldness."

Christian congregations met in houses with like minded people worshipping Christ. Paul explained this was for "upbuilding" each other (1 Corinthians 14:5). Holy Spirit appointed mature older men to overseer (Acts 20) whilst the older women were teachers of good (Titus 2:3, 4).

There was freedom within congregations to discuss different points of view without fear of retribution, as shown by open discussion on circumcision. Even when guidelines were given at Acts 15 regarding circumcision, these were not binding, as Paul explained at 1 Corinthians 8 they were not regulation but only to be followed if they would cause stumbling.

The formation of congregations indicates order but does not imply an elite group of specially directed leaders in a position to demand unquestioning obedience.

First Century Governing Body?

The Watchtower claims that a formal governing body was established in the first century, which is used as the basis for how the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society operate today.

Watchtower

The term "governing body" is 'loaded language' as it never appears in the Scriptures and so has unique application within the pages of the Watchtower.How does the Watchtower justify a Governing Body when the term that does not exist in the Bible? This is by reference to the issue of circumcision as discussed in Acts chapter 15. This is the sole example of a convening of brothers to establish doctrine.

On this occasion it can not be said that the decision was made by an established Governing Body. Acts 15:2 says:

Paul

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Barnabas

and

some others

the

apostles

and

older men

Rather than showing the existence of a small number of 12 leaders being referred to as a Governing Body, Acts describes a gathering of the apostles and older men in Jerusalem along with Paul and Barnabas, who were travelling missionaries, and others. This large group combined to decide on an important issue affecting the local congregations.

The history of the Apostle Paul shows that there was no centralized Governing Body directing the early Christians. After Paul's conversion, he did not convene with a governing body or go to Jerusalem to receive an assignment. Rather, he immediately embarked on his missionary work under direction of Holy Spirit. Paul did not make his first trip to Jerusalem until three years after his conversion, and even then he did not meet with a group of leaders, but just with Peter and James.

Galatians 1:17-19 "Neither did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles previous to me, but I went off into Arabia, and I came back again to Damascus. Then three years later I went up to Jerusalem to visit Ce´phas, and I stayed with him for fifteen days. But I saw no one else of the apostles, only James the brother of the Lord."

He then did not go back to Jerusalem for another fourteen years (Gal 2:1-3), possibly for the occasion described in Acts 15. Schaff's History of the Christian Church shows that after the issue of circumcision was resolved "?we have no trace of Councils before the middle of the second century?"

Watchtower Leaders

The Governing Body rules by fiat; that is, they have absolute authority. It is said that the Watchtower Governing Body must be submitted to because Jesus actively directs them.

Watchtower

As shown in the chapter on the Mediator, the Governing Body takes the role of spiritual mediators for the Great Crowd. Recognizing the insertion of an intermediary organization in place of Jesus is important, as it is a common practice by groups using cohesive persuasion. In Robert J. Lifton's The Future of Immortality and Other Essays for a Nuclear Age (New York, Basic Books, 1987) he writes;

"Mystical manipulation can take on a special quality in these cults because the leaders become mediators for God."

The claim that there is just one true Organization and that Jehovah uses the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society to direct his followers gives these leaders great power. It becomes justification for why a Jehovah's Witnesses must unquestioningly obey edict written in the Watchtower as if it is "the voice of God" (Watchtower 1957 June 15 p.370). It allows the Governing Body to disfellowship as apostates anyone that does not agree with all their doctrine, regardless of the ongoing changes that are being made. It allows them to add to the reasons that the Bible specifically lists as worthy of shunning. It has also allowed the Governing Body to create rules covering all areas of worship; such as, how many meetings to attend, how to preach, what to wear, what to say, how often to go and how to report, criteria that have become viewed as important for salvation.

Power is known to corrupt, and organizational leaders tend to relish the power they have over their followers. Paul offers sage advice:

1 Corinthians 7:23 "You were bought with a price; stop becoming slaves of men."

Conclusion

The Watchtower Society is described as Jehovah's "wife" and "earthly instrument".

Watchtower

Referring to the Watchtower Society as Jehovah's earthly organization creates an air of divine authority. Personification as a motherly woman creates fear of displeasing "her". In reality, the Watchtower Society is a standard company with a Charter incorporated in America. It is a worldly corporation run by progression of men. Like any company, its foremost concern is ultimately growth and financial viability, achieved through book sales and donations.

In The Myth of Certainty: The Reflective Christian & the Risk of Commitment (InteVarsity Press, 1986, 1992) pp.29-30 Professor Daniel Taylor warns:

"The primary goal of all institutions and subcultures is self-preservation. Preserving the faith is central to God's plan for human history; preserving particular religious institutions is not. Do not expect those who run the institutions to be sensitive to the difference. God needs no particular person, church, denomination, creed or organization to accomplish his purpose?"

The concept of Jehovah having one single organization that he directs by means of a Governing Body is used to support the concept that being a Jehovah's Witness is essential for salvation. Though the Bible consistently says it is faith in Jesus that is important, the Watchtower shifts attention to the Organization with statements such as "we must uphold the truth of that organization." (Watchtower 1961 May 1 p.276) The Governing Body uses this principle to set itself as a spiritual authority above the Bible, such as when stating:

Watchtower

Though an organization is never mentioned by Jesus, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that all other Christian religions will be destroyed by God because they do not follow Watchtower defined truth. Jesus said "He that believes has everlasting life"(John 6:47) and "I know my sheep and my sheep know me"(John 10:14). When a Jehovah's Witness reads passages like these they are trained to understand "whoever believes what the Watchtower says about Jesus may have everlasting life", and "the sheep know me, only by means of the Watchtower Society". This is not unique; it is common that "the cult and its beliefs become the only true path to salvation." (Combating Cult Mind Control, Hassan, p.202).

It is apparent that for most of the history of the Bible, Jehovah did not have a visible organization. Even during the short period that he used the Nation of Israel he regularly dealt with individuals in preference to the leaders of that organization, as was also the case during early Christian times. With both the Jews and early Christians, within just a few decades they were plagued with corruption and apostasy.

carla

kjw- the correct pic of jw's and their so called worship would be- governing body, wt literature, kissing the ass of the hierarchy within the congs, lip service to their god (which they like to use a word made up by a Cathlic monk-) jehovah, and on a rare occasion they give lip service to Jesus

God would never have anything whatsoever to do with the ungodly and downright evil organization of jw's.

sir82

Jesus said he appointed the faithful slave over his domestics- They are not worshipped-that is an out and out lie-

Heh.

Evidently you've never had a GB member give a talk at your local district convention, nor seen the thousands-long line of adoring throngs afterward, salivating at the chance to get their picture taken with a <tremble with delight> real GB member! Or just the chance to <swoon> touch the hem of his garment!

I've seen less worshipful attitudes at a Justin Bieber concert. (Ok, a Justin Bieber concert on TV - I've never been to one!)

skeeter1

How to Start a Cult for Dummies:

Rule #1) Convince the recruits (continually remind the converts) that the leader(s) speak for God.

Rule #2) Once Rule #1 has been learned by the recruits (and converts), the leader(s) demand the recruit, "Sit down, shut up, or else."

This article is part of Rule #1, just a little more subtle. Same result.

Terry

Titus 1:5 (Young's Literal Translation)

5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that the things lacking thou mayestarrange, and mayest set down in every cityelders, as I did appoint to thee;

June 1st public WT - Does God Have an Organization?

Does Jehovah require an Organization?

Requirement of Salvation

Does God require an Organization?

Israel

How Directed?

First Century Governing Body?

Watchtower Leaders

Conclusion

Titus 1:5 (Young's Literal Translation)

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