A simple question

by Listener 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Listener

  Ding said -

  It's what you needed to know at the time, even though it was wrong.

  Don't flame me over this.

  Just reporting the WTBTS view.

  Then a mother of her child that had to refuse a kidney transplant in the 70s was because it was the right time?

  Anyway, if the holy spirit is directing them, how does it direct them more so than other people? So they are not listening to Gods directrion properly until it becomes blatantly obvious or convenient? It becomes obvious that they are listening to their own thoughts and not Gods and that follows that individuals listen to mans thoughts and not Gods, that is a big burden to carry, but at least they can blame (praise) the org.

  A poster mentioned faith. Why are we to have faith in the org and not in God or Jesus? A JW might say because they are the Truth but flip flops, new light and old light would at best show only that they are the closest thing to the truth and yet God and Jesus are the Truth. A JW might also say that it would cause disunity if they went against the orgs teaching, but isn't it better to follow God's Truth?

  It's funny how the JWs give so much ridicule to publications such as the book of Mormon or the Koran and yet require strict adherence to their own publications.

  All would be much more acceptable if they could only say, in humility and truth, that they are making a well researched and educated guess along with sincere supplication to God and the bible but it was up to the individual to draw their own conclusions. There is a difference between directing and guiding and lording over or ruling their r & f.
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  factfinder

  The gb is now teaching that those alive in 1914 will not live to see "all these things occur", with their new generation teaching.

  So this means what I was taught in the TRUTH book is a lie, correct? It is not an old truth or old light, but a lie. But it came from Jehovah's spirit and was true up till now.

  If something is true, it remains true. Truth cannot become a lie. Falsehood cannot become truth, can it?

  It just goes round and round in circles discussing this with jws. They have to keep making up their new light/old light, new truth/old truth bs excuses, and then they say we are apostates and they do not have to answer our questions.
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  wasblind

  Factfinder says: "So this means what I was taught in the TRUTH book is a lie, correct?"

  Correct. On page 136 in the reasoning book, it says: "Have not Jehovah's witnesses made errors in their teachings? "

  under this heading they claim not to be inspired like the Apostles were, but had wrong expectations. and they give

  examples with Luke 19:11 and Acts 1:6.

  If you read these two scriptures, as It was pointed out by another poster

  on the board, In Luke it says they imagined, and in Acts it says they questioned. no where in the Bible does it show

  where the Apostles taught what they imagined or questioned. Why? because Jesus did not tell them when the kingdom was

  coming. In Acts 1:7 Jesus told the Apostle that" it did not belong to them to get to knowledge of the times or the seasons"

  to do this would have been over stepping thier boundaries, there is no way JW's can say the Apostles taught or predicted anything

  different from Jesus. The Bible shows no such thing
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  wasblind

  They try to use the word uninspired to weasle out of being false prophets

  but because they believed and taught worldwide about 1914 and other

  end of time dates and did this using Jehovah's name. they are indeed

  false prophets.