More AGM News !!!!!

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yknot

More AGM news continues to trickle in….
As a disclaimer I feel the need to draw attention to the fact that all information was initiated by faithful/believing JWs so if any lurkers thinks they recognize nuances of an email(s) they might have similarly received…. The original Bro/Sis holds no responsibility for my actions of reiteration….
Anywho lets get on it…….
13,582 were in attendance from 91 countries.
Confirmation that Brother Splane has been named as Barr’s successor in Writing.
Confirmation of all 6 Central American countries merging under the Mexican Branch. The Bethel family staff has been reduced from 300 to 75.
Branch News……
Branch consolidations were not about individual Branch efficiency rather better use of kingdom possessions as a whole. This allows for greater unity and optimal spiritual benefit.
Some examples of these benefits are:
(a) Fewer Zone Visits
(b) Merged countries may share Traveling Overseers
(c) Fewer Training Courses
(d) Resources are freed up enabling Branch expansion into areas such as Macedonia and Serbia (and others but no other territories were directly named)
Court cases…..
Russia- The Russian Government is appealing the ECHR June 10, 2010 ruling to the Grand Chamber. Requests for continued prayers.
France- The ECHR has agreed to consider the WTS appeal over the 60% taxing of contributions. If we are able to prevail it will have a great impact on our status and sit as precedent for any future cases in Europe.
New Stuff:……
1-year trial starting mid-2011 of a ‘Simplified English’ language WT edition for countries where English is a 2nd language; if successful, benefits are extended to the translation departments as well as to parents of young children.
2-year trial (USA) shepherding program for DO (and wives), global afterwards
FurtherAGM detail and discussion of the DO shepherding program can be found on Seenitall’s thread….please post your thoughts and comments! http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/199891/1/news-about-the-DO-Shepparding-program
4 Theocratic Schools. Starting Sept 1, 2011 each year Patterson will host 2 Branch Committee classes and 2 Traveling Overseer classes. These will be the second courses for the Brothers.
MTS name change to “Bible School for Single Brothers” (BSSB)
New school: “Bible School for Christian Couples”.
Further AGM details and discussion of all the schools can be found on Seenitall’s thread…..please contribute your thoughts! http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/199892/1/info-on-new-schools
Spiritual Upbuilding….
“Have you entered into God’s rest?” (Heb 4:10, 11) All were encouraged to cease ‘dead works’ (Heb 6:1)
Self-evaluation: …Ask yourself how you would react to counsel regarding personal lifestyle? What if the scriptural counsel differs from personal opinion? Will you be obedient in molding?
Example: An adult child who lives outside of the household is DFd? While the term ‘Necessary family business’ is a term familiar with those in this circumstance; the GB wants to stress there is no need to push this to the extreme! ….Basically to shorten the example and to get to the heart of the matter….. there must be incentive for the DFd person to want to return. Parents are encouraged to give a little but to leave the DFd child desiring for more while promoting their actions as motivate by their love for Jah. The end result is hope that the DFd child in wanting full access to the abundant love of his parents willl also begin to see his losses in not having a relationship with Jehovah and seek reinstatement.
1 Thes 5:2, 3 …………… "Peace & Security" , we are still awaiting fulfillment, this scripture is referring to a an exceptional development but all is a veneer and will fool all who are not spiritual awake!
That is all I got for now……
(if anyone else has been given notes that add or expand beyond what is available on JWN but prefers to remain anonymous.....PM me!)
Bethel Lurkers: Invitation to privately join JWN after your shift is over and to share your thoughts and opinions...... we really aren't all that different and your insight is always appreciated!
A BIG THANKS TO ALL WHO AIDED ANONYMOUSLY IN THE FULL FORMATION OF THIS POST
miseryloveselders

Spiritual Upbuilding….
“Have you entered into God’s rest?” (Heb 4:10, 11) All were encouraged to cease ‘dead works’ (Heb 6:1)
Self-evaluation: …Ask yourself how you would react to counsel regarding personal lifestyle? What if the scriptural counsel differs from personal opinion? Will you be obedient in molding?
Example: An adult child who lives outside of the household is DFd? While the term ‘Necessary family business’ is a term familiar with those in this circumstance; the GB wants to stress there is no need to push this to the extreme! ….Basically to shorten the example and to get to the heart of the matter….. there must be incentive for the DFd person to want to return. Parents are encouraged to give a little but to leave the DFd child desiring for more while promoting their actions as motivate by their love for Jah. The end result is hope that the DFd child in wanting full access to the abundant love of his parents willl also begin to see his losses in not having a relationship with Jehovah and seek reinstatement.
Now this is interesting........
Sapphy

Thanks for this Yknot!
"An adult child who lives outside of the household is DFd? While the term ‘Necessary family business’ is a term familiar with those in this circumstance; the GB wants to stress there is no need to push this to the extreme! ….Basically to shorten the example and to get to the heart of the matter….. there must be incentive for the DFd person to want to return. Parents are encouraged to give a little but to leave the DFd child desiring for more while promoting their actions as motivate by their love for Jah."
Do more emotional manipulation. Looking forward to seeing this in a study article...
Mad Sweeney

The Borg has read Releasing the Bonds.
Free Family getting cult members' authentic selves to miss their family bonds and activities is a key to getting people out of cults. Apparently the Borg thinks it works to get people back IN, too.
It could work if people who leave or get DFd do not form relationships outside the Borg. I think an important part of JW recovery is support for those newly DFd. There's a good amount of it here from JWN members but are there groups working at the local level on that sort of thing?
Gayle

the GB wants to stress there is no need to push this to the extreme! ….
This is the WTS/GB's cop-out of any responsibility on any such issues that they themselves created.
For example, after '75, they say they didn't say that, some of the 'others' did.
For example, if some die due to no blood, the GB state they did not make that decision, that was the person that died, decision.
If parents or family, shun a DF'd family member, that was the personal decision of those people.
no need to push this to the extreme! the WT clearly, stresses to not even say hello to such a DF'd person,,that pushes it all to the extreme. It's been threatened for years that if one associates with a DF'd person, expecially publicly, they, too, will be DF'd
The GB have no back-bone,,they put the rank & file to be extreme. No wonder many countries see the JWs to be "extremists."
Gayle

Mad Sweeney,,we have a support group here in Phoenix like that for newly Df'd and ones coming out of the organization. No belief agenda, we are quite diversified. We have helped some that were about to go into the organization too.
Doubting Bro

Couple of comments:
France- The ECHR has agreed to consider the WTS appeal over the 60% taxing of contributions. If we are able to prevail it will have a great impact on our status and sit as precedent for any future cases in Europe.
Agreed. And if they lose, the same holds true. This ruling could end up being as significant an event in the WTS history as the Swaggart case here in the US which resulted in them dropping charging for literature. The decision to not set up a for profit entity to sell their literature was one of the biggest business blunders ever by the WTS. See what happens when you don't pay "Caesar's things to Caesar"?

Example: An adult child who lives outside of the household is DFd? While the term ‘Necessary family business’ is a term familiar with those in this circumstance; the GB wants to stress there is no need to push this to the extreme! ….Basically to shorten the example and to get to the heart of the matter….. there must be incentive for the DFd person to want to return. Parents are encouraged to give a little but to leave the DFd child desiring for more while promoting their actions as motivate by their love for Jah. The end result is hope that the DFd child in wanting full access to the abundant love of his parents willl also begin to see his losses in not having a relationship with Jehovah and seek reinstatement.
I love these examples on how to practically apply the Talmud er WT directives. They do this all the time at KM school and at CO meetings with elders. Anyway, this is a pretty interesting development. First, it shows how the WT uses the threat of df'ing as a way to keep the flock in line. Second, it shows how manipulative the WTS is. Third, it clearly shows that the reason for df'ing is not to "keep the congregation clean" but rather to punish those who disagree with their directives. If they were really concerned that a df'ed person would be a bad influence on any JW and cause them to lose their faith, then why the exemption? I hate to be a cynic (not really) but does this potentially lighting of the shunning policy have anything to do with the big dollar French case?? Maybe or maybe now that Jacarz is gone, they're going to lighten up a bit.

This slight shift in the df'ing policy will end up being in a study article I'm sure with some more details. But, I think this is good news for those whose families haven't been displaying "natural affection" and if it eases the pain of shunning, I think that's a good thing.

Thanks Ynot!! Really appreciate all your efforts.

I love these examples on how to practically apply the Talmud er WT directives. They do this all the time at KM school and at CO meetings with elders. Anyway, this is a pretty interesting development. First, it shows how the WT uses the threat of df'ing as a way to keep the flock in line. Second, it shows how manipulative the WTS is. Third, it clearly shows that the reason for df'ing is not to "keep the congregation clean" but rather to punish those who disagree with their directives. If they were really concerned that a df'ed person would be a bad influence on any JW and cause them to lose their faith, then why the exemption? I hate to be a cynic (not really) but does this potentially lighting of the shunning policy have anything to do with the big dollar French case?? Maybe or maybe now that Jacarz is gone, they're going to lighten up a bit.

This slight shift in the df'ing policy will end up being in a study article I'm sure with some more details. But, I think this is good news for those whose families haven't been displaying "natural affection" and if it eases the pain of shunning, I think that's a good thing.

Thanks Ynot!! Really appreciate all your efforts.
betterdaze

1-year trial starting mid-2011 of a ‘Simplified English’ language WT edition for countries where English is a 2nd language;

if successful, benefits are extended to the translation departments as well as to parents of young children.

Who do they think they're fooling? An (even further) dumbed-down English WT is to attract the least educated and most vulnerable Bible studies cult victims.
~Sue
isaacaustin

I do not want to hijack this thread so started my own:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/200068/1/Treatment-of-Dfed-children
OnTheWayOut

“Bible School for Single Brothers” (BSSB)
New school: “Bible School for Christian Couples”.
....or BS for Single Brothers and BS for Christian Couples. More appropriate.
Example: An adult child who lives outside of the household is DFd? While the term ‘Necessary family business’ is a term familiar with those in this circumstance; the GB wants to stress there is no need to push this to the extreme! ….Basically to shorten the example and to get to the heart of the matter….. there must be incentive for the DFd person to want to return. Parents are encouraged to give a little but to leave the DFd child desiring for more while promoting their actions as motivate by their love for Jah. The end result is hope that the DFd child in wanting full access to the abundant love of his parents willl also begin to see his losses in not having a relationship with Jehovah and seek reinstatement.
That's a two-way street. They are trying to give faithful members an excuse to violate the shunning rule. Why don't they just say, "Be loving, then jerk your love away!" or "Blackmail your df'ed loved ones back!" ?

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