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You believe that evolution is a fact, and I respect that.
>> I dont believe is a fact, my beliefs mean nothing. I believed it was all a scam just a year ago. And then someone told me here that I should do more research and so i did. It didnt matter what i believed. We evolve, we adapt we have done that its proven fact not a belief. it goes agains what I believed in the past and it was hard for me to accept but I value more facts than fantasies.
But there are alot of things that were viewed as "facts" in the past that are no longer "facts".
>> And thats the beauty of science, that you can change if new evidence is presented. but with beliefs you cant, they are set and you have to defend them no matter what.
I'm not saying here that evolution is not true. But creationists dont' believe that evolution is a fact.
>>ok this a generalization and not true. There is a difference between the origin of life and the developement of life. My friend can you see that you have misconceptions? Creationists claim there is a creator, not that there is no evolution.
Evolutionists don't believe that creation is a fact.
>>Wrong again. Evolutionist only claim that life has evolved. and that is a fact wheater you like it or not.
True knowledge comes from learning many different viewpoints and coming to your own conclusions.
>> true knowledge? thats a new one. where did you grab that one? from the WT magazine. There is no true knowledge or false knowledge. only knowledge or the abscense of it. you might know something that is false but it is still knowledge. you mean knowledge of truths? thats the remainder of the WT crap in our heads. the need to have "the truth" to be the masters of the real deal.
I have no problem with my son learning about evolution in school. I will teach him creationism at home.
>> then you have a problem with evolution. Otherwise you wouldnt have the need to teach them creationism. ITs your son and I dont have any say in his upbringing but do you really believe is fair for us to teach religion to the impressionable mind of children? I think that is abuse. because they will believe whatever you say, you are God for them. My parents taught me religious beliefs when I was little and oh how i regret that. because when I found out it was all a lie my world collapsed.
And then he can decide what is true and what is not.
>>I think my friend you need to research more if evolutions is a fact or not regardless if you still believe in a creator. then you can a better opinion of what is is being taught at school.
But learning about different points of view and different "facts" is not dangerous and does not take away ones rights to believe the way they want to believe.
>>is not dangerous until you make those points of view your points of view. It is dangerous for a father to teach his son JW points of view. Do you agree? then how about Islam? mormonism? Moonism? my son will embrace my points of view for the simple fact that they are mine. and he wont quesition them until its too late. its better not to have them and then as an adult decide.
The blood policy. That is a different monster. By enforcing this view, they ARE taking away the rights of others. They are committing murder. They don't merely state their point of view and let others believe or not believe it. They enforce it and any JW that does not agree with it is condemned to death.
>>why is the blood policy any different than lets say, believeing that we are going to go to heaven if we die? or how about live in aplanet with all your wifes? or wihth 72 virgins? or go to heaven when a comet passes earth? Do you see? religion is dangerous. it poisons your mind. unless you have "the truth" that is. problem is, most religion have their own truth. and they all believe as strong as you that they know exactly how things are and that everybody is mislead... do you rmemeber the kingdom hall talks?
It's all a matter of rights. If you were FORCED to believe in creation, that would be wrong and would be taking away your rights to believe the way you want to believe. But that is not done. You are not forced to do that.
>>my friend when we teach a myth or an opinion to a child we are forcing them, they wont question they will accept. so you better be careful what you teach them. it is not until we start using logic and reasoning that we start learnig by ourselves otherwise any opinion is forced in them.
As far as I can see, even if laws have been passed in the past based on religious views, they are not religiously enforced now.
>> really? how about gay marriage?its banned. by whom? do you know that in some cities oral sex is against the law? how about abortion? you dont think that is religiously based? our everyday life is modified one day or another by religion and its myths. when someone sneezes you say god bless you.... yeah right.
Like JWoods said, laws against murder and stealing may have had a religious motivation, but they are not enforced because of religion today.
>>they might not be enforced by religion but they are still enforced.
