How many JW's are doing bad things each year worthy of being DF'd?

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  • dissed

    For a religious group that claims to be above reproach, with a self proclaimed, excellent reputation for Godliness, I don't feel that claim is quite true.

    In fact, I think its a sham to make those assertions.

    They trully should not feel they are different from any organized group, when it comes to its members following righteous standards. True, the WT would like all to believe they are clean and morally straight, that they are different and not tainted from the world. But again, I feel, that is simply not the case.

    What I'm talking about is 'serious wrongdoing' as the JW's have coined the term. They will claim they don't tolerate that and remove it from the Congregations. But do they really?

    First of all, how many are DF'd each year? We actually have some data on that. Does anyone remember? Wasn't it between 45,000 - 75,000 a few years ago? With the incredible growth of the JW Apostasy, it has to be much higher than that now.

    But let's assume it is now 75,000 DF'd per year. How many went before a JC and were not DF'd and reproved? At what ratio do you think, 3,4,5 to 1?

    If its 4-1, that would mean 300,000 + the 75,000 DF'd committed something wrong and were caught. Factor that over ten years and 3,000,000 were doing bad stuff, and got caught. You pick the ratio and do the math, this was just my experience in my area on JC's. Either way, that's a huge percentage (40%) of JW's that have engaged in 'serious wrongdoing'.

    My own extended JW family which numbered at 22 had 10 disciplined over the last 10 years. And this family was considered a decent JW family.(most of those were kids: drugs and immorality)

    One nephew told me him and his brother slept around with sisters but never got caught.(They sort of got caught. Their father, who is still an Elder caught them, but never reported it) Which brings up the next part of the equation, how many are doing bad stuff, but are not getting caught. I think quite a bit. And how many again are fading, hiding their apostate reasonings?

    Sure, the WT claims they don't allow this and take care of it. Even saying JG's spirit will reveal it in due time, right?!

    But the point I'm trying to make, is this group, that makes such claims as to their moral cleanliness, is really far from it. I can't help but think of the illustration of the white-washed graves on the outside, but full of dead man's bones on the inside. They are just as corrupt as any group, but lie and do their best to keep this a secret. To the point of falsely claiming they are different than anyone else.

    Just my thoughts. Its certainly not meant to be an exact science, but trying to get ones to see the real truth about this organization.

  • leavingwt

    More than 30%, IMHO.

  • Pitchess Co-Gen
    Pitchess Co-Gen

    They said in 2009 that 100,000 are disfellowshiped each year, and thats not even counting the reproves ( public or privite ).

  • wasblind

    Well, i personally knew of sisters who watched the soap operas

    Baptized sisters!!! cause we would talk about them amonst each other

    not all of the sisters did this but just our group, i was the only unbaptized

    in the mist of this, they understood that it was hard for a convert, to go

    cold turkey, but i don't know what their excuse was, because soaps promote

    everything the bible speaks against. I still watch mine. If the elders knew

    i'm sure they would be called to the back and warned.

  • StAnn

    Re: How many JW's are doing bad things each year worthy of being DF'd?

    NONE OF THEM. No one deserves to be DF'd. People are supposed to be able to confess their wrongdoing, repent, receive forgiveness, and start over with a clean slate.

    This DFing thing they claim is to keep the congregation "clean" but it's just a form of control. It's a perversion of Our Lord's true love for us and his desire to forgive our sins and draw us closer to Him. Makes me very angry to see people going to the elders needing help and getting mindless punishment instead.


    Pitchess, where did you see that #?

  • jamiebowers

    Is the 100,00 number worldwide, in North America, or just the U.S.?

  • jwfacts

    I think most are doing at least something they could be publically reproved for or even disfellowshipped. A large number commit uncleaness prior to marriage, many secretly smoke, young ones commonly go the night clubs, I have heard of elders that beat their wives. Porn is far more common than any are willing to admit. I knew a lot that played on the pokies. Many are obese, which could be construed as gluttony. Over-drinking was done by most that I grew up with. Swearing is common in the right circles.

    JWs do not go as far as people in general with each of the above aspects simply because they need to be careful not to get caught. But I believe most have their vices.

  • InquiryMan

    My congregation must have been a spiritual paradise compared to what is being told here...

  • asilentone

    That means that we have alots of hypocrites in the organization?

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