Christianity gives you.........umm.......uh.............................................?

by Terry 93 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • JeffT

    I think each of us has to become better than what we are now.

    I knew who I really was (I still am that person if I'm not careful). I don't like him. You wouldn't either if you knew him.

    I agree that some are leaders some are followers. Do you believe that religion or lack thereof in and of itself puts a person in one category or another?

    Religion delays our maturing process. Sometimes for a lifetime!

    In your opinion.

    I think it can delay a maturing process, or speed it up. So can a lot of other things.

    PS, I worked for a guy who went through life knowing exactly who he was, lived like who he was, and knew with out question that he was better anybody else around him. He was the biggest jerk I've ever met, and he's in the process of wrecking his own business.

  • tec

    You ask what I get from Christianity. I got my life back.

    Just wanted to show my appreciation for what you shared, Jeff.


  • transhuman68

    Christianity is o.k. if you don't take it seriously. You make friends, and have something to talk about, and have somewhere to go on a Sunday.

  • PSacramento
    Thanks for a thoughtful reply.

    Your question deserved it :)

    I personally didn't become a good father or a good anything until I completely abandoned religion/christianity/god/the supernatural.

    Coming from a former JW hardliner like you were, I cna totally understand that.

    I kind of got on with REAL LIFE for the first time.

    Yes, sometimes religion CAN keep you from reality, too true.

    I guess I can't handle more than one universe at a time:)

    LOL, if you could that would make you God ;)

  • freydo

    Why conservatives are abandoning the 'gay' issue

    Posted: August 17, 2010
    1:00 am Eastern

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    "Do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?" – 1 Corinthians 6:19 NKJV

    Sex is sacred.

    For millennia, this biblical principle was the bedrock moral value of the Western World.

    The mysterious portal through which human beings enter this world, sex was to be reserved exclusively for a man and a woman joined permanently by marriage vows, and all other forms and circumstances of sexual expression were forbidden – locked away, as it were, in a sort of Pandora’s Box, heavily guarded by the sentinels of Judeo-Christian Civilization. Confining sex to marriage was universally seen as essential to strong marital unions and secure families, and thus to the very fabric of civilization itself.

    However, this strict but divinely inspired and life-protecting moral code – after enabling century after century of dazzling societal evolution in the Western world – has unraveled in our own lifetimes.

    The change first emerged into stark public view during the 1960s under the banner of "sexual liberation" and "gay liberation." While the public was distracted by colorful spectacles of youthful rebellion, psychedelic drug use and the rock "invasion," just below the surface a full-bore assault on Western institutions and values – particularly traditional sexual morality – was taking place.

    As I show in "How Evil Works," the well-documented leftist infiltration and subversion of virtually all of America's institutions during the last two to three generations has included, front and center, the sabotage of traditional morality and religion. After all, from the Marxist perspective, if you're serious about transforming America – from a land of limited government and individual liberty rooted in a transcendent, faith-based moral code to a population of compliant, needy people dependent on a god-like government – you simply must separate the population from Judeo-Christian values and morality. As John Adams put it: "It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand."

    Today, a half-century after the tumultuous '60s, what began then has evolved to heights and depths of sexual anarchy and depravity simply unimaginable to previous generations. It's as though some of us sneaked up to Pandora's Box, killed or seduced the guards, broke the locks, opened the box wide and blew up the lid. And the sexual genie, once restrained but now liberated, has penetrated virtually all areas of life and conjured up an ongoing societal transformation.

    Find out how corruption and tyranny are being packaged, perfumed and gift-wrapped – and sold to Americans as though they were wonderful! Read David Kupelian's culture-war classic "The Marketing of Evil" and his just-released sequel, "How Evil Works."

    We've progressed way beyond free sex. News reports today showcase an epidemic of school teachers having sex with their underage students, teen "sexting" and rampant middle-school "hookups," transgenders marching in parades proudly displaying their surgically mutilated bodies, and ever-increasing tolerance of adult-child sex.

    Perhaps most troubling – at least in terms of its potential to shred the fabric of Judeo-Christian civilization – is so-called "same-sex marriage." The God-ordained union of man and woman, the wellbeing of children (who need both father and mother), the soundness of the family as the basic "cell" of a strong and healthy body politic – all this vanishes when the sacredness of marriage is violated and mocked.

    As I will shortly explain, if same-sex marriage becomes the law of the land, moral confusion will dominate our culture, polygamy and other aberrant forms of "marriage" will quickly follow, traditional Christianity will be essentially criminalized, and much more. In a word, America will become unrecognizable............."

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  • Terry

    Freydo, did you accidentally wander into the wrong Topic?

    Have you been messing around Pandora's Box? Her husband will not appreciate it!!

  • chrisjoel

    "As I will shortly explain, if same-sex marriage becomes the law of the land, moral confusion will dominate our culture, polygamy and other aberrant forms of "marriage" will quickly follow, traditional Christianity will be essentially criminalized, and much more. In a word, America will become unrecognizable............."

    Wait? What? that when the kings will turn on bablyon the great and the world empire of false religion will be destroyed?..then Peace n Security? just asking....

  • chrisjoel

    Ok , so, what does Christianity give you?

    PPL have a certain mindset they share with others and Christianity's churches/halls/meeting places, provide a place to converge and share their ideology together. This is of course NOT limited to belief. They have a social setting on which to come together and "hang out" "socialize" "enjoy fellowship" call it what you will. Every group goes into the working world, puts up with the days stresses, and then, as if to provide some "relief", christians go back to their group where they are with like minded ppl that share their world anyother religion, the social setting is an apparent source of "comfort"...(Mary who is pregnant for example, can approach her cousin sitting in the pew across from her, after mass, and tell her how stressful things are going. Mary would NEVER see her cousin if it wasnt for church. Church is now THE REASON Mary now has as an excuse to speak with her cousin.Its all a very happy blissful situation and Christ Jesus is to be thanked for bringing them all together)

    The same however can be said of golf and country clubs.

  • Hecklerboy

    I agree with the original post 150%!!!!!!!!!

    Religion was invented to control the masses.

  • freydo

    No I didn't wander into the wrong topic. I knew it would take a little mental flexibility - but the point is - what is going to happen to western civilization when Christianity has been replaced - by muslim and libertarian/liberally enlightened philosophies that choose a morality of their own liking that needn't feel bothered by anything called a conscience which Christianity and the Bible have upheld and taught about the consequences for it's wilfull violation on personal and cultural levels, with one example after another. And the decent to those depths of depraviity that result from not having a biblically trained Christian conscience is in free fall. And the end of the road is completely predictable from the pages of Scripture.

    Col 2:8 "Take heed lest there shall be any one that maketh spoil of you through his philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ:" ASV

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