WOW GUYS- I haven't checked in on this thread in a long time!
My e-mail hasn't been telling me people are replying to this. Sorry!
Let's see if I can answer some of this! I have placed the persons handle next to each reply so you can keep track of what I am answering to.
What about God resting on the seventh day?
You still ignore the BIBLE even your NWT calling Jesus and the Holy Spirit God and Yahweh.
Yes the father is God- we agree on that.
I take every scripture seriously and the simple fact is the Bible says
There is only ONE true God but calls all three God and says all three have all the divine qualities. If you believe everything the Bible says then you have just believed in the doctrine of the trinity. If you chose to throw out the parts you don't like don't expect your belief to make sense.
The scholars say the trinity and many doctrines of God can be apprehended but not comprehended. That means we can outline the facts but may not understand how the can be. For instance- God did create the world out of nothing but that doesn't mean I can understand how he did it. If you are relying on the WT's quotes of scholars I suggest you check those quotes because all of them are either entirely made up, taken out of context or taken from athiestic sources.
All Christian denominations believe the same core essential doctrines about God, Salvation, etc.. but have different interpretations on minor small issues- not the big stuff. The only differents between JWs and Christians in this respect is they hide their different oppinions because they are afraid to be disfellowshipped over something small. Many of the churches just use different types of music in worship so it's a matter of which is most relevant to you- ie- what is your natural worship style- Hymns, contemporary, etc... I have been to many different churches for worship and have enjoyed them very much. I have one home church because that is the example the Bible sets. Church is for worship of God and instruction on his word. It also is for fellowship among believers. We are at home with all believers no matter the denomination or church. You seem to think we all hate the other denom or church but that is not the case-
A believer is part of the universal body of Christ and family of God.
Another good point!
Good points too-
Food for thought
Jehovah the Only Creator [Make Sure Of All Things." pg 79 1953 ed]
Sentence is self explanatory.
"Thus shall ye say unto them, the gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens" [Jer. 10:11, The Bible]
Conclusion: Christ will perish, along with Moses, & David, & all those other gods.
You are right-> without the trinty concept this is impassible.
I am only using logic and the Bible to discuss about the trinty here. If you would like scientific proof that is another topic that can be started though-
There is no scientific proof God does NOT exist and plenty that proves He DOES. If the proof says he does exist (which it does) then you need to find out which 'God' & Holy Book is the truth. Thre are many religions out there and they cannot all be correct when each one says the others are false. After research into science, history, archeology and prophecy it is concluded that the Bible is reliable and inspired. From there you need to find out what it says and follow it. That simple. If you want to discuss any proof then just e-mail or start a thread on it :)
WillPower- Again good point-
The Bible has stood the test of time and has remained the same since it ws written and the earliest Christians all believed basically the same things we do today. God says in the Bible that the gates of hell shall not prevail against his church- so how do JWs explain their thinking that this whole time the Church has been decieved and after some 1800+years after the Bible is completed, Charles Taze Russell Knows the real truth and restores it.-->and they don't even follow a lot of the teachings he originally taught (shrug)
Yep- you are right!
They didn't even do a good enough job at mistranslating though because you can still find the trinity in their NWT. And their KIT proves their own translation wrong- go figure. I guess they just count on no one actually checking and if they do they accuse them of that darned 'independant thinking and Bible reading' offense.
Keep on studying- the truth sets you free!