CO talk: "Jehovah's Witnesses killed Jesus"

by sd-7 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    The C.O. mentioned in his talk last week that the Jews, who had the name "Jehovah's Witnesses" applied to them, killed Jesus. I found that a particularly revealing admission, simply from the way he said it. "Jehovah's Witnesses killed Jesus," he said.

    He went on to explain that the coveted title of "Jehovah's Witnesses" was taken from the Jews. He acknowledged that nowhere in the Bible are Christians called "Jehovah's Witnesses", but he still felt that the prophecy about God "taking a people for his name" was fulfilled, not with the first-century Christians, but with 'us today'.

    The peculiar fact here is that Christians got their name "by divine providence". Bearing witness to Jesus, whose name means "Jehovah Is Salvation", was good enough to Jehovah back then. Why is it that divine providence is not good enough for the self-proclaimed only true Christians on earth today? Why would Jehovah's Witnesses want to assume the title of those who delivered up the Lord Jesus to be murdered? I can think of a good reason.

    "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the graves of the prophets and decorate the memorial tombs of the righteous ones, and you say, 'If we were in the days of our forefathers, we would not be sharers with them in the blood of the prophets'. Therefore you are bearing witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets."--Matthew 23:29-31

    Funny what organization does for you--makes you desperate to maintain your authority at all costs. I often said to people that if Jesus came to the earth today, people would simply kill him again. I never fully understood that in no place would that be more likely than amongst Jehovah's Witnesses. The Society would experience the same desperation as the Pharisees did in their time. And they would find a way to railroad Jesus--let me guess, the beard? As did the Pharisees, anyone who disagrees with their teaching is labeled as a sinner, out only for fleshly interests and denying God altogether. Blind ones who claim they are the only ones who see.

    Jehovah's Witnesses killed Jesus in modern times, too. They put words in his mouth, attribute falsehoods to him, removed his very name from the cover of their main advertising tool, The Watchtower. They block the approach of millions who wish to reach the Lord Jesus, as if they themselves are the door of the sheep, instead of Christ. Indeed, those who pierced Christ Jesus will see him upon his return. We needn't have any doubt of that.

    --Christopher

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    I'm confused. Sounds like the CO is, too.

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    I could not agree more!

  • sacolton
    sacolton

    Excellent point, sd-7!

  • superpunk
    superpunk

    I often said to people that if Jesus came to the earth today, people would simply kill him again.

    Do you really believe that?

    In this day of 24 hour news networks and the ability to verify that people who are dead are actually dead - if we came across a guy who can raise the dead, cure the blind by spitting in their eyes and stretch salmon into forever, I think we'd keep him alive for a little while.

    What a bizarre talk though.

  • sd-7
    sd-7

    What's particularly peculiar is the notion that the prophecy about God 'taking a people for his name' would skip over all Christians for 1,900 years and suddenly be fulfilled upon this one religion. An overinflated sense of self-importance is a common feature of cults. I think I see the leanings of a cult here. The leanings, the fallings over, and the beings identified as a cult.

    --Christopher

  • sd-7
    sd-7
    Do you really believe that?

    Absolutely, I do. Even in this era--no, especially in this era. People who fear losing their power will always react the same way when they see a threat to themselves. The pharmaceutical companies, the politicians, the Pope, the 'faithful slave', and you name it would gladly gather in the same room to see him dead if he showed up again today. I guarantee it. People don't change. Aside from that nut-job who would want to go down as the guy who killed Jesus--again. I mean, there's always a number of possibilities. But yes, I very much believe that.

    --Christopher

  • garyneal
    garyneal
    I often said to people that if Jesus came to the earth today, people would simply kill him again.
    Do you really believe that?

    In this world that we live in, ABSOLUTELY. It is about power over people, from the religious leaders to the political leaders. If someone came to earth and reached out to the lowliest amongst us while railing against the present powers that be concerning their corruption. HE WILL BE SILENCED.

    That's a fact.

  • superpunk
    superpunk

    Sounds like the plot of "The Green Mile" to me. An entertaining story, but not very realistic.

    Maybe I have too much faith in my fellow humans.

  • garyneal
    garyneal
    Maybe I have too much faith in my fellow humans.

    I have faith in my fellow humans too but I also know that there are times when no matter how much people try to do the right things greed, laziness, fear (among other things) enter the equation and muck things up for all of us. I have a lot of faith in myself but if given the right combination of circumstances I know I too am capable of doing things that I would've never dreamed of even considering in otherwise 'normal' circumstances. It is the same for everyone, even you.

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