"Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters. "
Albert Einstein
"Half a truth is often a great lie. "
Benjamin Franklyn
[Thanks all, for some great WT instances to copy and save]
Would the WT$ outright lie?
by peacedog 54 Replies latest jw friends
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JWoods
Of course, one of the most devastating facts of their cavalier attitude toward the telling of the truth was the Ray Franz passage on how Mexican witnesses could simply "buy off" their national draft conscription by a monetary bribe, while literally hundreds of U.S. JW young men were serving time in Federal prisons over the same issue. Similarly, JW members in Malawi were undergoing great persecution because they were prevented from buying a stupid 25c ID card.
All the above was presented to the governing body and promptly rejected because this evidence would have been too embarrassing.
In a continuation of this lie, the WT magazine had the brazen gall to write that any U.S. JW who did time over the draft "did it entirely out of their own conscience" - at the time that the rules over conscientous objection were changed which made their former imprisonment completely nonsequiter.
Oh the tangled web we weave - once we conspire to deceive.
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DrJohnStMark
Just say in google misquotations in the creation book by jehovah witnesses and then calculate the probability that all those misquotations were an accident...
After all this, must say that the WT society leaders really have a weird sense of humor: They say all other religions are false religions...
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AnnOMaly
How about this falsehood?
God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached - p.352-3 17 The "Slave" Who Lived to See the "Sign"
Similarly, in the year 1919, Jehovah did "turn [his] hand back upon those who are insignificant." (Zechariah 13:7) Jehovah's Shepherd-King, Jesus Christ, did begin regathering the scattered "sheep." Like the slave's master in the illustration, the Lord Jesus did return to his house and inspect the situation within it. He did find there a "faithful and discreet slave" class that was striving, in spite of world conditions, to do as commanded, give the Lord's "domestics" at the proper time their spiritual food, food taken from the inspired Word of God. So the Lord showed his favor by regathering them into a well-organized body of "domestics" in his house. The eight-day general convention held at Cedar Point, Ohio, on September 1-8, 1919, was a notification to all the world that the invisibly present Lord Jesus Christ was regathering his faithful "sheep." It indicated to the world who it was that the returned Lord Jesus had found to be his "faithful and discreet slave" class. This made the "slave" class happy. It meant their being retained in the service of their heavenly Master.
But how was the 1919 convention notification to all the world about who Jesus had found to be his 'faithful and discreet slave class' when ...
w.1936 3/15 The Lord's Day part 1 p.87
22. Even the 'faithful servant' class, the remnant, did not discern the coming of the Lord to the temple at the time it occurred. Those faithful ones were fully trusting in the Lord and waiting upon him, yet it was not until 1922 that the Lord revealed to them that he was at the temple for judgment.
... and when they were teaching ...
w.1922, May 1, p.132
Jesus clearly indicated that during his second presence he would have among his church a faithful and wise servant, through whom he would give to the household of faith meat in due season. The evidence is overwhelming concerning the Lord's second presence, the time of the harvest, and that the office of 'that servant' has been filled by Brother Russell. This is not man-worship by any means. It matters not who Charles T. Russell was - whether he was a doctor, a hod-carrier or a seller of shirts. St. Peter was a fisherman: St. Paul was a lawyer. But these matters are immaterial. Above all, these men were the chosen vessels of the Lord. Regardless of his earthly vocation, above all, Brother Russell was the Lord's servant. Then to repudiate him and his work is equivalent to a repudiation of the Lord, upon the principle heretofore announced.
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peacedog
More good points. Thanks everyone.
AnnOMaly: That's a good example of how inconsistent WT$ doctrine is. On one hand their convention in 1919 was world-wide notification that Jesus had (supposedly) returned and selected the WT$; on the other hand they didn't even discern that Jesus had (supposedly) returned at that time...
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peacedog
Another:
*** w60 11/1 p. 648 Christians—Spectators or Participants? ***
Today, hundreds of thousands of Jehovah’s witnesses have responded to Jesus’ command to preach the Kingdom good news from house to house.Anyone know the verse where Jesus commands us to preach from house to house??
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AnnOMaly
Like the 'Jesus commanded preaching from house to house' example, this is more in the category of 'fantasy interpretation.'
w08 7/15 p. 4 par. 5 The House-to-House Ministry-Why Important Now?
The witnessing done in the first century was but a foretaste of a greater work to be done in our day. The prophet Joel likened the preaching activity of anointed Christians to a devastating plague of insects, including locusts. (Joel 1:4) Advancing like an army, the locusts surmount obstacles, enter into houses, and devour everything in their path. (Read Joel 2:2, 7-9.) What a vivid portrayal of the perseverance and thoroughness of God's people in carrying out the witnessing work in modern times! Foremost among the methods used by anointed Christians and their "other sheep" companions in fulfilling this prophetic picture is the house-to-house ministry. (John 10:16)
Joel was speaking about an invading army of enemy Gentile nations (or real, literal locusts?) devastating God's people and their land. How does that translate to God's people 'devastating' the nations with their global preaching work? Nuts.
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peacedog
Reminds me of the Society's Revelation book wherein every single verse in revelation is said to somehow predict some aspect of the modern day JW religion.
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yesidid
I’ve put variations of this in nearly every other thread today so I might as well put it here:
Over more than sixty years they have claimed they were expecting Jesus return in 1914. It is a deliberate lie. Until at least 1929 they were teaching that Jesus had returned invisibly in 1874. So they certainly were not expecting him in 1914.
You don’t have to take my word for it, below are the Watchtower quotes that prove it. If you wish, I have many more quotes, but these will do for the moment.
First the quotes of what they are now teaching:
***w546/15p.370TheRevelationofJesusChrist***
4 "Why, then, do the nations not realize and accept the approach of this climax of judgment? It is because they have not heeded the world-wide advertising of Christ's return and his second presence.Since long before World War I Jehovah's witnesses pointed to 1914 as the time for this great event to occur.
--The Watchtower ' , July 15th, 1965 page 428
"Jehovah's Advancing Organization"
As we look back over the years, we can clearly see how God's organization in modern times has progressed in understanding. For example, it learned that Christ's second presence was to be in the spirit, and not in the flesh as many professed Christians believe. His rule would be from the heavens. This was a new revelation of great importance to God's people who had beenanxiously awaiting his second presence toward the end of the nineteenth century.
*** w 198412/1 pp. 13-14 Happy Are Those Found Watching! ***
20 Russell and his associates quickly understood that Christ’s presence would be invisible. They disassociated themselves from other groups and, in 1879, began publishing spiritual food in Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence. From its first year of publication, this magazine pointed forward, by sound Scriptural reckoning, to the date 1914 as an epoch-making date in Bible chronology. So when Christ’s invisible presence began in 1914, happy were these Christians to have been found watching!
The greatest Man who ever lived. 1991
*** gtchap.132AtGod’sRightHand***
A careful study of Bible prophecies, including Jesus’ own prophecy regarding the last days, reveals that “the Lord’s day” began in the history-making year 1914, yes, within this generation! So it was in 1914 that Jesus returned invisibly, without public fanfare and with only his faithful servants being aware of his return.
The quotes below show that until about 1930 they had been teaching that Christ HAD returned in 1874. Armageddon was expected in 1914.
--The Watch Tower, 1 March 1923, page 67
The Scriptures show that the second presence [of the Lord] was due in 1874 . . . . This proof shows that the Lord has been present since 1874.
--The Watch Tower, 1 January 1924, page 5
Surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of God that the Lord Jesus is present and has been since 1874.
From the book “Prophecy ‘published in the year 1929, pages 65, 66 l
The Scriptural proof is that the second presence of the Lord Jesus Christ began in 1874 AD. This proof is specifically set out in the booklet entitled Our Lord's Return.
From the book ' Proclaimers…' published in 1993
*** jv 632 28 Testing and Sifting From Within *** Based on the premise that events of the first century might find parallels in related events later, they also concluded that if Jesus baptism and anointing in the autumn of 29 C.E. paralleled the beginning of an invisible presence in 1874, then his riding into Jerusalem as King in the spring of 33 C.E. would point to the spring of 1878 as the time when he would assume his power as heavenly King. They also thought they would be given their heavenly reward at that time. When that did not occur, they concluded that since Jesus anointed followers were to share with him in the Kingdom, the resurrection to spirit life of those already sleeping in death began then. It was also reasoned that the end of Gods special favor to natural Israel down to 36 C.E. might point to 1881 as the time when the special opportunity to become part of spiritual Israel would close.
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peacedog
yesidid:
Thanks!
I started the thread with the quote from the 6/15/54 WT, but it's worth seeing again.
You also quoted the 6/15/65 WT. Good one! How could they have been "anxiously awaiting his second presence" WHEN THEY BELIEVED THAT HE HAD ALREADY RETURNED?! This is one of the most blatant lies I've seen from the WT$.
I'd actually never picked up on the lie in the Greatest Man book: "in 1914...Jesus returned invisibly...with only his faithful servants being aware of his return." In 1914, his supposed "faithful servants" were telling anyone who would listen that Jesus had already returned 40 years previous....
If you have any more, please share them.