When I told a long time non JW friend I had left JW, I mentioned how difficult to accept there was nothing else after one died....or something like that. He lovingly called an "arrogant supemist."
Good article Lance!
A belief in an afterlife is the most dangerous of all beliefs
by Awakened at Gilead 38 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Awakened at Gilead
I'm glad the discussion is going well and we're getting various points of view....
BTW, I based my concept of the anointed on my experiences with my stepdad, who definitely does not take care of his health, and I think his heavenly hope is a factor in this. Also, I have seen that memebrs of the GB have had a similar attitude, wanting to die early so they can go to heaven.
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Homerovah the Almighty
Kudos to Lance for bring this to peoples attention that yes there have been certain ones that may have taken this dangerous and precarious
notion that this world is soon to end and so health and education should therefore be placed on a back burner.
I know of a few JWS that are elderly now who are direly impoverish because they believed in the WTS that this system
of things was going to be over by now and they unfortunately hung on to that belief only to realize now it has caught them in
a very bad and unwelcoming way.
In some ways it promoted careless irresponsibility and procrastination to things that people who are getting up in age
didn't think it was an important endeavor.
Of course this may not be a direct concern for the GB members since they know who and what is looking after them.
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flipper
AWAKENED- Hey Lance - To back your point up - which I totally agree with , check this quote out from the Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower magazine November 15th, 2008 article on , " Maintain a Scriptural View of Health ". Under the subheading " Avoid Excessive Concern Over Health Care " it states and I quote : " We know that it is wise to avoid letting our health become an obsession or a constant concern. Our attitude should differ from those who have " no hope " , who think that this life is all there is and who will resort to any therapy in an attempt to cure their ailments. "
I'd say it's pretty clear that the WT society does not give a damn about the esent physical health of their members because they are too busy manipulating rank and file members to believe in a fantasy " afterlife " or imaginary " paradise " where allegedly their ailments will be cured. It's cult mind control and manipulation of the masses at it's ugliest worst. Get them to believe in the future fantasy - and rank and file witnesses will not think about how to live in the here and now - today. Total con job
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Awakened at Gilead
http://atheistswager.com/2009/01/chasing-the-dream/
This cartoon reflects my point...
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donny
Not all they are cracked up to be. 72 "'sluts'" now that is an afterlife i can get behind
But what about 72 women nagging you after the honeymoon is over? 72 women PMS'ing. 72 women asking "do I look good in this?" 72 women saying "you dont pay enough attention to me!" 72 women saying "Let's talk." 72 women telling you "Why did you call me Stacy, I'm Jessica!" 72 women sending you to the store to by "feminine products." 72 women telling "I missed my period."
Is it worth it?
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donny
What were they thinking when they made that promise to martyrs?
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parakeet
Anyone remember this from "The Onion"? It was published shortly after the 9/11 attacks.
Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell
'We Expected Eternal Paradise For This,' Say Suicide Bombers
September 26, 2001 | Issue 37•34
JAHANNEM, OUTER DARKNESS—The hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon expressed confusion and surprise Monday to find themselves in the lowest plane of Na'ar, Islam's Hell.
"I was promised I would spend eternity in Paradise, being fed honeyed cakes by 67 virgins in a tree-lined garden, if only I would fly the airplane into one of the Twin Towers," said Mohammed Atta, one of the hijackers of American Airlines Flight 11, between attempts to vomit up the wasps, hornets, and live coals infesting his stomach. "But instead, I am fed the boiling feces of traitors by malicious, laughing Ifrit. Is this to be my reward for destroying the enemies of my faith?"
The rest of Atta's words turned to raw-throated shrieks, as a tusked, asp-tongued demon burst his eyeballs and drank the fluid that ran down his face.
According to Hell sources, the 19 eternally damned terrorists have struggled to understand why they have been subjected to soul-withering, infernal torture ever since their Sept. 11 arrival.
"There was a tumultuous conflagration of burning steel and fuel at our gates, and from it stepped forth these hijackers, the blessed name of the Lord already turning to molten brass on their accursed lips," said Iblis The Thrice-Damned, the cacodemon charged with conscripting new arrivals into the ranks of the forgotten. "Indeed, I do not know what they were expecting, but they certainly didn't seem prepared to be skewered from eye socket to bunghole and then placed on a spit so that their flesh could be roasted by the searing gale of flatus which issues forth from the haunches of Asmoday."
"Which is strange when you consider the evil with which they ended their lives and those of so many others," added Iblis, absentmindedly twisting the limbs of hijacker Abdul Aziz Alomari into unspeakably obscene shapes.
"I was told that these Americans were enemies of the one true religion, and that Heaven would be my reward for my noble sacrifice," said Alomari, moments before his jaw was sheared away by faceless homunculi. "But now I am forced to suckle from the 16 poisoned leathern teats of Gophahmet, Whore of Betrayal, until I burst from an unwholesome engorgement of curdled bile. This must be some sort of terrible mistake."
Exacerbating the terrorists' tortures, which include being hollowed out and used as prophylactics by thorn-cocked Gulbuth The Rampant, is the fact that they will be forced to endure such suffering in sight of the Paradise they were expecting.
"It might actually be the most painful thing we can do, to show these murderers the untold pleasures that would have awaited them in Paradise, if only they had lived pious lives," said Praxitas, Duke of Those Willingly Led Astray. "I mean, it's tough enough being forced through a wire screen by the callused palms of Halcorym and then having your entrails wound onto a stick and fed to the toothless, foul-breathed swine of Gehenna. But to endure that while watching the righteous drink from a river of wine? That can't be fun."
Underworld officials said they have not yet decided on a permanent punishment for the terrorists.
"Eventually, we'll settle on an eternal and unending task for them," said Lord Androalphus, High Praetor of Excruciations. "But for now, everyone down here wants a crack at them. The legions of fang-wombed hags will take their pleasure on their shattered carcasses for most of this afternoon. Tomorrow, their flesh will be melted from their bones like wax in the burning embrace of the Mother of Cowards. The day after that, they'll be sodomized by the Fallen and their bowels shredded by a demonic ejaculate of burning sand. Then, on Sunday, Satan gets them all day. I can't even imagine what he's got cooked up for them."
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Awakened at Gilead
LOL@ Parakeet...
I found a YouTube video that sums this up quite well, I will post it later from home... (YT blocked)