So Far, How Do You Think President Obama's Doing?

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  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Bloomberg article coins a new term: "Obama Bear Market"

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aGJ_.gr_awkY

    March 6 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama now has the distinction of presiding over his own bear market.

    The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 20 percent since Inauguration Day, the fastest drop under a new president in at least 90 years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The gauge has lost 53 percent from its October 2007 record of 14,164.53, slipping 4.1 percent to 6,594.44 yesterday.

    More than $1.6 trillion has been erased from U.S. equities since Jan. 20 as mounting bank losses and rising unemployment convinced investors the recession is getting worse. The president is in danger of breaking a pattern in which the Dow rallied 9.8 percent on average in the 12 months after a Democrat captured the White House, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

    “People thought there would be a brief Obama rally, and that hasn’t happened,” said Uri Landesman, who oversees about $2.5 billion at ING Groep NV’s asset management unit in New York. “It speaks to the carnage that’s in the economy and the lack of confidence in the measures that have been announced.”

    A bear market is defined as a decline of 20 percent or more.

    Buying shares “is a potentially good deal” for long-term investors, Obama said March 3. He compared daily fluctuations to a tracking poll in politics and said he wouldn’t adjust his policies just to meet market expectations.

    Congress last month enacted Obama’s $787 billion package of tax cuts and spending on roads, bridges and public buildings. His 2010 budget indicated the government’s financial rescue may need another $750 billion after an initial $700 billion.

    Getting Cheaper

    The Dow average has dropped 31 percent since Obama’s election. The 30-stock gauge trades at 8.04 times annual earnings, the cheapest since 1995 and down from 10.06 times on Inauguration Day.

    Citigroup Inc. led the plunge, losing 71 percent. The government proposed taking a 36 percent stake in the New York- based bank, cutting the percentage owned by shareholders. Detroit-based General Motors Corp. tumbled 53 percent after the largest U.S. automaker said it needs more government aid.

    “It’s the Obama bear market,” said Dan Veru, who helps oversee $2.8 billion at Palisade Capital Management in Fort Lee, New Jersey. “We don’t know what the rules are in so many different areas the government is touching.”

    Futures on the Dow average expiring this month fell today before a report that may show the economy lost more jobs in February than at any time since 1949. Dow futures declined 0.7 percent at 6:51 a.m. in New York.

    Bank Losses

    The U.S. economy contracted at a 6.2 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter, the most since 1982, the Commerce Department said last week. Unemployment jumped to 7.6 percent in January, the highest since 1992, as Americans fell behind on their mortgages and banks seized homes at a record pace.

    Losses at financial companies worldwide that grew to about $1.2 trillion sent the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index to a 38 percent retreat last year, the steepest since 1937.

    “Prospects for recovery in the financial sector, despite all the government help, still seem rather remote,” said John Carey, who manages about $8 billion at Pioneer Investment Management in Boston. “We’ve had a weak economy for a couple of years, and we aren’t seeing the stimulus working at this point. That is what weighs on investors’ minds.’’

    The Dow average took eight months to decline 20 percent following the inauguration of George W. Bush, reaching the level on Sept. 20, 2001, nine days after terrorists attacked the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.

    Herbert Hoover

    The crash of 1929 occurred seven months into the administration of Herbert Hoover, who presided over an 89 percent plunge in the Dow between September 1929 and July 1932, the steepest retreat ever.

    Only twice has the benchmark gauge slipped in the 12 months after the election of a Democratic president since 1900, after Woodrow Wilson’s victory in 1912 and Jimmy Carter’s in 1976.

    The Dow entered its most recent bear market on July 2, 2008, when a 167-point decrease gave it a 20 percent loss from its record 14,164.53 on Oct. 9, 2007. Unlike the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index, the Dow’s rally from its November low of 7,552.29 fell short of a 20 percent bull market gain, ending at 19.6 percent.

    “Obama should be listening to the stock market more than talking to it,” said Kenneth Fisher, the billionaire chairman of Woodside, California-based Fisher Investments Inc., which oversees $22 billion. “He hasn’t gotten out of the gate well.”

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  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Alan Keyes says Obama is an abomination, a radical, questions his eligibility to serve as President, and exposes the bailout fiasco.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYmdipEcXYA

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  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    Obama loses two more nominees. This has to be a record for a new President. What a disaster.

    CNN correspondent Sanjay Gupta has withdrawn his name from consideration as the nation’s next surgeon general, opting to continue to devote time to his reporting and his medical career.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/03/05/breaking-gupta-withdraws-from-consideration-for-cabinet-post/

    I thought Sanjay Gupta would have been an awesome Surgeon General. I believe this represents a vote of no confidence in the Obama health care plan.

    Another vote of no confidence in the Treasury department:

    The person Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner wanted as his chief deputy withdrew from consideration Thursday, dealing a setback to the agency as it struggles to address the worst financial crisis in decades.
    Annette Nazareth, a former senior staffer and commissioner with the Securities and Exchange Commission, made “a personal decision” to withdraw from the process, according to a person familiar with her decision.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Treasury-secretarys-choice-apf-14561159.html

    The Obama ship has barely left port and it is already taking on water. The passengers have met the captain and are running for the lifeboats.

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  • minimus
    minimus

    No one wants to be part of the government.

  • Quirky1
    Quirky1

    I haven't read this whole thread but I think he has his hands full and is doing what he can with what he inherited. Good, bad? Only time will tell.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    America went for the "O" like sheep to the slaughter on last November 2nd. Little did they know the "O" had no bottom.

  • minimus
    minimus

    At least he's holy.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Q.: So Far, How Do You Think President Obama's Doing?

    A.: <sarcasm> I think he is doing JUST GREAT </sarcasm>

    The Dow Jones Industrial Average hasn't hit ZERO yet, so clearly he has a bit more to do.

    Welcome back, Carter!

    I've heard Obama is in secret negotiations with the BeeGees to bring back disco music. I think that was on YouTube, or maybe The Onion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D9lXG8hSWk

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    More evidence of the perception that Obama has contributed to tanking the market and worsening the crisis.

    http://www.businessweek.com/print/investor/content/mar2009/pi2009034_253747.htm

    Did Obama Cause the Stock Slide?

    Wall Street has soured on the new Administration's policy moves. Can this relationship be saved?

    By Ben Steverman

    At least on Wall Street, the honeymoon is over for President Barack Obama.

    Polls still show the President has strong popularity among the general U.S. population, and Obama continues to command power in Congress. But among investors, fairly or unfairly, there is griping that the new Obama Administration is at least partly to blame for the recent slide in stocks. Since Nov. 4, Election Day, the broad Standard & Poor's 500-stock index is off about 25%, and since Jan. 20, when Obama took office, the "500" is down 15%.

    It's never easy to determine exactly why the stock market moves in a particular direction. Plenty of other factors have influenced stock prices since November. For example, the global economy has slowed further and the outlook for corporate profits has worsened.

    But BusinessWeek interviewed a wide array of investment professionals, and many said the first six weeks of the Obama Administration have soured their outlook on the stock market.

    Bar Was Too High

    It wasn't always so. On Nov. 21, word arrived that Timothy Geithner would be tapped as Obama's Treasury Secretary and markets rallied immediately. The S&P 500 rocketed 15% higher that day and the following trading session.

    Stocks continued to climb into January, and even rallied in the week after the inauguration. "Hopes were too high," says independent market strategist Doug Peta. Too many were hoping the new Administration would have "this magic potion to solve our problems," he says. "That was unrealistic."

    Proposals for a stimulus bill pushed infrastructure stocks to unsustainable heights. Caterpillar (CAT) surged 39% from the market lows in November to early January. Since then, shares in the maker of construction equipment have tumbled back down again, falling 43%.

    Charges of Bungling

    Many investors hoped Obama could start to solve the stock market's—and the economy's—biggest problem: the credit crisis. "It was a false hope," says Brian Reynolds, chief market strategist at WJB Capital Group, who believes there is "nothing the government can do to stop the crisis."

    Others are more hopeful the government can ease credit conditions, but say the Obama Administration has bungled the operation so far. A Feb. 10 presentation of a financial-sector relief plan by Geithner was widely criticized. Stocks fell almost 5% that day.

    Geithner was a "particularly poor salesperson back on Feb. 10," says Marc Chandler of Brown Brothers Harriman, who says he voted for Obama. "The Obama Administration has failed to get ahead of the curve."

    Uncertainty Leaves Room for Rumors

    A lack of details from Geithner disturbed investors, says Quincy Krosby, chief investment strategist at the Hartford (HIG). "Markets need certainty," she says. "The market has been sitting here waiting, waiting, waiting. That allows rumors and conspiracy theories to dominate."

    Jerry Webman, chief economist at OppenheimerFunds (OPY), defends the Administration. "I would like to see Administration people more visible" on the issue, he says. But, "the problem is: What do we expect them to say? 'This is a big complicated problem and we don't know where we're going to get the money to solve it'? That would be the truth," Webman says, but it wouldn't make market participants very happy.

    Credit issues may be the chief complaint about Obama among investors. But they're hardly the only gripe. In recent weeks, Obama has made clear he intends to keep campaign promises on health-care reform, climate change regulation, and higher taxes for Americans who earn more than $250,000.

    Surprised by "Leftism"

    Professional investors tend to be more conservative, so it's perhaps no surprise they're concerned. "The basic agenda of Obama's Administration is going to be more leftist and less centrist than I had anticipated," says John Merrill, chief investment officer at Tanglewood Wealth Management in Houston.

    The impact of Obama's proposals are easy to see in particular segments of the market. In a speech to Congress on Feb. 24, Obama pledged a "substantial down payment" on health-care reform. David Chalupnick, head of equities at First American Funds, points out that, since then, stocks in the Dow Jones U.S. Health Care Providers Index (IHF) are down 16%. Health-care stocks had been a relative safe haven in the market, because medical spending tends to hold up even in recessions.

    Investors aren't just expressing their political beliefs that taxes and regulations are bad for the economy. They're also making a practical calculation that they will hurt corporate bottom lines in the future. "What you're doing is lowering the profitability of these firms," says Bill Larkin of Cabot Money Management.

    Short-Term Focus

    There may be little right-leaning investors can do about liberal policies coming from the White House. "A majority of Americans elected this President on that platform," says Jeffrey Kleintop of LPL Financial Services. In any case, many in the market are more focused on short-term concerns—the recession and the credit crisis—than the long-term implications of Obama's policies.

    "People are looking for a very quick fix," Larkin says. "It's the way the markets are. They like to have a problem resolved." Unfortunately, solutions from Obama, the Federal Reserve, or anyone else are slow in arriving. "It's going to take time," Larkin says.

    On Mar. 3, Obama tried to get investors to take the long view. "You know, it bobs up and down day to day," Obama told reporters, referring to the stock market. "And if you spend all your time worrying about that, then you're probably going to get the long-term strategy wrong."

    Missed Opportunities Early On

    Obama and Geithner missed the chance—if they ever had such an opportunity—to "wow" the market and help restore some market confidence early in his Administration, Larkin says. So, instead, "this is going to be a long, drawn-out thing."

    Investors will need to wait to see evidence that the stimulus package and measures to ease the credit crisis are really working. "The market is sitting back and saying: 'Show me the money. I'll believe it when it happens,'" Kleintop says.

    Obama also tried to argue on Mar. 3 that stocks were a good buy. "Profits and earning ratios are starting to get to the point where buying stocks is a potentially good idea," Obama said, adding "if you've got a long-term perspective on it."

    The problem for investors is the long-term outlook has never looked so fuzzy. With the economy deteriorating, the credit crisis continuing, and the Obama Administration still formulating a response, few feel confident enough about the future to buy stocks. It may be quite some time before investors find a change they can believe in.

    Steverman is a reporter for BusinessWeek's Investing channel.

  • sammielee24
    sammielee24

    Obama's doing GGGRRReat! Michelle is stepping up nicely to do her part! It's nice to have good leadership....something positive to work with. sammieswife.

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