"The Conscience Rule" Started 1/19/09....Check this out!!! UNBELIEVABLE!

by minimus 36 Replies latest jw friends

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  Elsewhere

  How about if I'm a cab drive and I think that the teaching of Muslims are false so I refuse to pick one up and drive him to his mosque or priest to his church or an atheist to an antheist convention. The whole thing is stupid. People who do this should be fired so they can find a job that doesn't offend their beliefs. And that goes for dispensing birth control, blood transfusing whatever. If your religious conscience doesn't allow you to perform your job then find a job you can do without going against your religion. The rest of the world should have to bow to your convictions. Unless of course you don't mind bowing to everybody elses.

  Exactly!
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  Elsewhere

  I'm a programmer. That's what I do for a living.

  I wonder what would happen if I went to the HR department and told them that I have joined a new religion, and because of this typing on keyboards and compiling code was now against my religion.

  If they fired me for not doing my job, I bet I could sue them under this new rule!

  Time to retire!!!
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  besty

  http://www.lawyerpress.com/news/2009_01/19012009_002.html

  see above for British legal professional comment

  see below for Besty unprofessional comment:

  500 years ago -> Religion chopping heads off the unbelievers

  Today -> Religion emasculating the employers and refusing to vive la difference

  Plus ca change
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  WTWizard

  This sounds like the witlesses are gaining control of our country. If they don't want to take blood, that's their choice. However, if they are hired to administer medical treatment (and most blood cases are emergencies) and refuse to do their jobs, then why can't they be fired for refusing? It isn't like it wasn't part of their job requirements! That would be like my refusing to stock canned peas on the shelf because I had a religion that was against it or because I didn't like peas--a pretty quick way to get fired.

  Now, we are going to have to worry that the doctors are witlesses, and we have no way of knowing it. If they are, and we get into an emergency blood situation, they will not administer the blood. People may die, people may suffer disabilities. I suppose next, they are going to say that everyone must start going out in field circus because it's against their religion to allow anyone to be in peace. Or, that their religion requires stoning people to death for refusing to join the cancer, or for exposing their fallacies.

  We are never going to progress--in fact, it looks like the Washtowel Slaveholdery has just opened the door to plunge the whole world into the Second Dark Ages. Look for that sometime in 2011 or 2012, and this is not an inspired prophecy (more a calculation).
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  JeffT

  Funny how all of you picked examples of how applying this rule to people you don't like would work. Try this on for size:

  Business ships medical supplies to hospitals, pharmacies, doctor's offices etc. Oh, and military bases. I'm hiring a Quaker who tells me he'll do anything but drive onto a military base. Absent a rule like this I'm free to tell him to go find another job.
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  besty

  quakers = lovely people

  catholics = lovely people

  mormons = lovely people (a bit self conscious, but still lovely)

  JW's = lovely people

  muslims = lovely people

  I've been friends with, lived in houses with, argued with and worked with all the above. Lovely people.

  My instinct tells me their religion is irrelevant to their loveliness.

  And likewise their religion should not interfere with their job.

  Otherwise before long some wise ass will create a religion bigger than Judaism, Buddhism and Sikhism just to poke fun at 'the establishment'

  wait a minute.......

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_census_phenomenon
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  kurtbethel

  If Hadji does not want to transport someone who has a bottle of hooch, or who wants to be transported to a room where they will fornicate, then he is not really qualified to transport people for hire, as pretty much everyone is headed off to do one transgression or another. He really needs to find a line of employment that will not be likely to compromise him, like say, goat herding.
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  besty

  goat herding in the desert...

  .....with other desert-based goat herders....

  isn't that where all the monotheistic idiocy started - with desert-based goatherders...

  why are we still talking about this crap 2000 years later?

  thank goodness for exponential change - i give organised religion another 50 years and we are done.
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  minimus

  There are too many stupid laws on the books.
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  Big Tex

  If I am paying someone to provide a product or service, they should do their job. If their job is objectionable to their religious beliefs, then they are the one's who need to change jobs.

  Here's a big AMEN to that! Reminds me of the time the gal behind the meat counter at Albertsons refused to get a lobster out of the tank for me. Her reason? She was a vegetarian. Her job was cutting meat and she objected to cooking a lobster.

  As for medical personnel putting patients in danger by refusing to perform their duties, just wait until the insurance company gets wind of this and believe me, they will be fired or reassigned or their conscience will change. The liability and exposure to litigation the hospital and doctor would incur would be astounding.