"The Conscience Rule" Started 1/19/09....Check this out!!! UNBELIEVABLE!

minimus

Section 884d2 of this rule says that if a person did not want to assist another in any health service situation, they couldn't be made to violate their consciences! It "bars health care institutions and employers from requiring any individual to perform or assist in the performance of any part of a health service program '' if it would offend his/her religious beliefs or moral convictions. If a worker refused to perform or assist an employer could do nothing about. It could not go against their record. They could not be fired, etc.

If a JW nurse or technician refused to assist in the OR handling anything to do with blood, they could simply refuse and if the patient was adversely affected by that Witnesses' decision, oh well......

Check out the article about this found on rhrealitycheck.org. "What Were They Thinking?".

A patient could die because of a JW or Christian Scientist's religious beliefs!

daniel-p

I believe this is something that is being currently debated at the national policy level... a lot more implications to this than just JWs/Christian Scientists etc...

minimus

I'm seeing the Bush Administration put this thru and that Obama might try to get this off the books.

purplesofa

I want to point out that, a company cannot refuse to hire you for religious beliefs, a smart and clever job interviewer can find these things out in the hiring process.

Applications for employment are getting smarter about the questions they ask, even retail, is there anything that prevents you from doing this or that?

yeah, Min, that's crazy,

purps

undercover

Could this also be in response to druggists that didn't want to dispense the "morning after" pill? Or for people who didn't want to be involved with abortions?

minimus

yes...uc.

but the rules are in place for other issues.

Emma

I believe it also covers anyone who doesn't believe in birth control, no pills or even condoms.

sammielee24

Could this also be in response to druggists that didn't want to dispense the "morning after" pill? Or for people who didn't want to be involved with abortions?

There have been a number of pharmacists that refused to fill prescriptions for the birth control pill citing religious beliefs, as well as the morning after pill which is nothing more than a mega dose of birth control pill. Bush had also pulled funding out of planned parenthood as well but Obama has already reversed that. I expect that this is going to be rewritten and/or worked over as well.

Reminds me of the flack that was being caused a few years ago by the Muslim cab drivers at I think it was the NY airport. Seems that when people got into the cab with a gift which happened to be a bottle of wine, he refused to drive them to their destination. The wine wasn't opened, it was inside a bag and had been bought as a gift but since it offended his religious beliefs, he refused to drive the people to where they needed to be. Caused a lot of inconvenience etc...

Obama can't work fast enough ...

sammieswife.

minimus

A person can hold a Bible or other holy book and simply state they won't do something because it's against their religion or conscience and there's nada you can do about it!

Alpaca

Where this gets really confusing for non-Dubs is when different Dubs exercise their consciences differently.

For example, with the blood issue, suppose that one Dub will handle blood fractions, but another will not. Or, to make it even more confusing, suppose one Dub will handle one type of blood fraction but not another type of fraction (based on some interpretation of the GB's directives).

What health care employer in his right mind would even want to take the chance that in an emergency a medical team is stopped in its tracks by some idiotic equivocating over this kind of stuff?

Of course, the BORG ban on education should prevent too many Dubs getting the education necessary to work those kinds of jobs.

"The Conscience Rule" Started 1/19/09....Check this out!!! UNBELIEVABLE!

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