by shopaholic 18 Replies latest jw friends
Even is she wasn't baptized, if she was an unbaptized publisher living with her family, she could have been treated as baptized and had a jc and reproof. It depended what year it was and what congregation you were in; so much for unity.
Don't you know, they had to "protect" other youth and families by embarrassing her and her family and making them feel like crap.
Back in the 80's they did publicly reprove people who were not baptized. She must of at the time been an unbaptized publisher for that to happen. Don't forget back in the 80'd Michael Jackson was DA ed and kicked out for Thriller even though he was never baptized. They changed these terms to apply to only baptized people in the mid to late 80's. She probally got shunned at the time because of being reproved. I know in my hall if you got reproved people would stop talking to you because you were bad association.
*** w89 2/15 p. 29 Questions From Readers ***
Does the material on being approved by God mean that Christians may speak to one who once was considered an "approved associate" but later, because of wrongdoing, was to be avoided?
Yes, it does. TheWatchtower of November 15, 1988, showed why it is Scriptural to adjust our view of an unbaptized person who shares in the public ministry with Jehovah’s Witnesses. Formerly, such a person was termed an "approved associate." If he thereafter unrepentantly broke God’s laws, the congregation was alerted, and the members would then avoid association and conversation with him.
As the recent material showed, the Bible requires that such disciplinary action be taken in the case of baptized persons who are unrepentant wrongdoers. (1 Corinthians 5:11-13; 2 John 9-11) Yet, the accountability of an unbaptized person who pursues wrongdoing is not the same as that of one who is baptized. (Luke 12:48) He has not been baptized and thus has not become approved in God’s sight, so disfellowshipping is not appropriate in his case. Basically, he is now a worldly person and can be dealt with accordingly.
What, then, of one who was formerly termed an "approved associate" but who is no longer qualified for the public ministry because of his wrong course? Since he is not disfellowshipped, he should be treated as the person of the world that he is. Of course, the November 15 Watchtower advised on page 19 that due caution must be exercised by loyal Christians. These realize that the unbaptized person may well have shared in wrongdoing despite his having knowledge of God’s requirements. Mature Christians must be careful about socializing with such an individual. If questions arise as to the extent of contact that may be had with him, most of these can be resolved by following godly counsel. We can reflect on counsel such as that found at 1 Corinthians 15:33 and Proverbs 13:20 and ask ourselves: ‘What association would I properly have with a person of the world who is not living by Christian standards?’ If the elders see that a worldly person of this sort poses any threat, they can privately offer warning counsel to those in the congregation who seem to be endangered.
In time, an unbaptized person who had been an "approved associate" may give reasonable evidence of repentance, and he may desire to have a Bible study again. (Acts 26:20) He may speak to the elders of the congregation where he now attends, who, if it seems advisable, will arrange for him to have a Bible study. This will apply also if in the future someone is disqualified as an unbaptized publisher and later shows repentance. Usually, he ought to speak to the two elders who dealt with his wrongdoing or the two others whom the body of elders chose to review the matter if he requested that.
Appropriately, TheWatchtower explained that it is somewhat different in the case of parents caring for minor children in the home—those legally dependent minors for whom they are responsible to provide material support. (Ephesians 6:1-4) The Scriptures lay on the parents the obligation to instruct and guide their children. So the parents (or believing parent) may choose to conduct a private Bible study with the erring minor or to include him in the family’s program of Bible study and discussion.
While the recent Watchtower material calls for adjustment in our thinking and dealings, it is done in line with the Scriptures that are beneficial "for disciplining in righteousness."—2 Timothy 3:16, 17.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/900537/sherri_shepherd_is_using_being_a_jehovah.html?cat=2
And only one comment below it on the site too....pro-jw.
This is great. That show has a huge audience, yes?
Whomever wrote that article should not write another word until they return and finish at least the third grade. QUOTE: "Sherri Shepherd is Using Being a Jehovah Witnesses Are Reasons for Multiple Sex Partners and Abortion"
"Whomever wrote that article should not write another word until they return and finish at least the third grade. "
Probably home-schooled.
Sent this clip to a couple of JW friends and they were outraged when I spoke to them. Because you can now talk to people that have been reproved they called Sheri and a liar and says her story has no basis. Then I reminded them of the change back in the late 80's and they quietly said it sounded familiar. All of them are older than me. If I remember it then they should too.
But they still believe, in their words, its just one of Satan's tactics and he is definitely approving of Sheri. One of them actually said the world doesn't understand that the elders are not like the rest of the religious leaders and that the elders are clean, honest and upright in all regard and probably had to ask such detail questions based on what they have been instructed to do and to help guide them to best decision for the congregation.
Unbelievable...these folks are brainwashed for sure. And proves that the org is betting on folks forgetting organizational changes with time.
