Stats from USA elders meetings - ANON source

by Dogpatch 24 Replies latest jw friends

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  Dogpatch

  Hi Randy

  some stats you may not have

  Latest stats from elders meeting [USA]

  Latest staff count

  Brooklynn 1716

  Patterson 1036

  Walkhill 1149 total 3901

  2000 have left bethel in the last 3 years

  of which 225 became special pioneers

  47 took up regular pioneer service and

  1728 returned to congregations as regular publishers

  70% of bethel family has more than 5 years service

  6% have between 5 and 24 years

  24% have more than 25 years full time service

  You welcome to publish these they are from a highly regarded source in Brooklyn

  Please keep my identity confidential don’t feel like the vengeance being taken out on my family

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  Randy
  http://www.freeminds.org/
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  BLISSISIGNORANCE

  Hi Dogpatch.............wondering if you could shed some light on numbers leaving the WTS, congregations dissolving, df'ings etc. Cheers, Bliss
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  BreakingAway

  2000 have left bethel in the last 3 years

  of which 225 became special pioneers

  Thanks for the info.So approx. 89% have decided not to become Special Pioneers.I'd imagine that at least some of them have had their eyes opened as a result of this.
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  daniel-p

  Do you mean that 70% have LESS than 5 years of service? Otherwise there is double counting with the next statistic. Anyway, those are very interesting and telling numbers. It fits completely with what we've been hearing on the ground about the Bethelites leaving. I see most of the divestment has occured from Brooklyn as they liquidate their assets there.
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  Quandry

  225 became special pioneers

  47 took up regular pioneer service and

  1728 returned to congregations as regular publishers

  Could we get the stats on how many are on food stamps?

  Oh, I forgot. They all have the equivalent of a college education since reading the WTS literature. We should expect to see them getting jobs in a professional capacity sometime soon.
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  Dogpatch

  hi Bliss,

  Hi Dogpatch.............wondering if you could shed some light on numbers leaving the WTS, congregations dissolving, df'ings etc. Cheers, Bliss If I find out I'll pass it on! Randy
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  yknot

  Thank you for the Stats...

  1728 returned to congregations as regular publishers....That is highly encouraging to this community!

  I hope some of them lurking here will post their experiences soon!
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  flipper

  DOGPATCH- That is one hell of a turnover rate , isn't it ? I mean this has to be much more leaving than when you were still there. Do you have some older exiting figures we can compare this to? Just curious
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  bobld

  My understanding the 2000 did not leave voluntarily but got to boot.They thought they would be there until the new system.AHAHAHAHAHAH.

  B
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  sir82

  89% have decided not to become Special Pioneers.

  They decided?

  Hardly. It was decided for them.

  The layoffs were strictly a cost-cutting move. Paying $600 / month plus health care for the special pioneers is not cutting costs! Thus there are very few of them.

  I imagine the special pioneer gig was given to those who had the most seniority, or who had the best connections to the bigshots.

  A cynical person would say the ones were assigned to be special pioneers were the healthiest of the lot, in order to keep health care costs down. But me, I'm not that cynical .