AAG, I like to point out the terms like "soon" "threshold" "very soon" "very soon now" etc that the WTS has used over the last 129 years. Even Noah only had a wait period of 120 years and he supposedly had a much longer life span than humans today. jws grasp at every disaster saying it proves the end is close; I even knew several that kept a journal of the disasters. "At a time you think it not to be..............."
HI jgnat, we are planning our flowers and garden but it's too cold to plant yet. Comfort from the BORG....means not going to the visitation of a jw's non-jw spouse, or parent or sibling. It means elders saying they don't like hospitals and being around sick people and that is why they don't visit anyone there. Here is one area that the men are glad to hand off the responsibility to the women....Wasn't Jesus reluctant to be around sick people?!
Honesty, every day I miss a meeting and no longer associate with my negative family, is a day more that I heal in. But that is what abused people discover when the get away from the abuser.
OMG, that is like saying that God allows us to suffer from cancer to teach us how to endure.
(James 1:13) 13 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone. . .
Hey, R&R, the WTS keeps themselves out of the helping loop by putting the blame on God when nothing happens. The WTS fails to recognize that things are accomplished through humans. The WTS misses many opportunities to give practical help freely to its members, not asking them instead to sign over their insurance after rebuilding the homes of jws after a disaster. When a elderly jw is helped to the doctor, has their house cleaned, food prepared, it is at the expense of individual jws, not the congregation or the organization.
Hello, bronzefist, are you saying that the adversities that remain are the "old school elders"? Old school elders are being removed around here, about 10 were removed by the CO 2 visits ago. It is the new ones that are toeing the line now learning what happens to those that don't.
choosing life, it only shows how reliable their explanations are. Makes you see that holy spirit from God can't be behind there interpretations. But since they say they are God's representative on earth, disagreeing with them means disagreeing with God.
Good points, Uncle Gary.
No wonder any Witness with two functioning brain cells is quitting (or going on strike). :-)
I see a lot of passive aggressive actions. jws today do as little as possible and still insure "everlasting life."
BTXG, good summation.
Let's carefully reconsider the OT example in para 13. Here, this event in the life of David is truly a stupid choice. Who was David's enemy in this example? Was it some wicked, evil, child-burning pagan sent as an agent of the Devil? Why no, not at all ! This enemy of David was none other than "the anointed of Jehovah," King Saul ! So, here we have an example of Jehovah's beloved servant David fleeing from Jehovah's beloved, anointed King Saul ! So, Jehovah has to protect one of his servants from another one of his servants? Hey, who was in charge around there?
And, which wife helped him escape? Why, it was Saul's daughter Michal, who later got mixed up with another dude, but went back to David, then didn't love David, so David ignored her. While David's relationship with Michal was rocky, David always loved, and hugged, and kissed her brother Jonathan! Wow, what a duo! But Jonathan got killed, David wept a lot, and then he boinked a married woman, killed her husband, etc. So Jehovah punished David by killing innocent people and causing domestic problems that caused fighting and death.
I never understand why David is considered a good example; adultery, murder, census--selecting a punishment for 70,000 innocent people, rape of his wives, death of his first son by Bathsheba, and in all of this David kept living.
Thanks, Tired of The Hypocrisy.
It is all just talk .and the dubs that I know are starting to see through it and complain that the elders and the congregation does nothing personally to help them
I know 2 jws who finally complained to the CO about not being shepherded. They were visited and scriptures shared and 3 weeks later no contact, no practical help, nothing has changed. They are both seeing the light.
BTW Russell felt that the end would come in 1914. I wonder if he imagained that it would be 2008 and the WTS would still be saying "soon"?
Good comments, everyone.