If You Were Ever An Elder...

by Henry 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Lady Liberty
    Lady Liberty

    Dear Henry,

    WELCOME to the forum!! We are so happy to have you here!! There are many ex-elders here, so I am sure you will get alot of responses. It wasn't until I left that I found out how many intimate questions the elders routinely ask those who have "sinned". I am sure there are many like you who were uncomfortable with the whole thing, but I am sure there were many who got off on it. Afterall. that would be the closest thing to porn that they could get. Again, we are happy to have you here, and appreciated your story.

    Sincerely,

    Lady Liberty

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    What about the responsibility of being an elder did you dislike the most?

    While I was fully assimilated, I thought that the thing I hated the most was the
    Judicial Committees- sitting in judgment of others.

    After I stepped aside, I realized that I was STANDING in judgment of others
    all the time. I didn't need a committee. Elders are constantly judging the
    "spirituality" of the flock. Judging by comments, field circus numbers, meeting
    attendence, skirt length, presentation at the door, how late they arrive at the
    hall, whether they clean the hall on their book study's turn, etc.

    One BOE would judge another BOE. Since most of it was negative and based
    on vague and incomplete knowledge, elders are really pre-judging. The
    judging, that's what I hated

  • Crisis of Conscience
    Crisis of Conscience

    Let's ressurect this thread. Any newbie posting elders/ex-elders?

  • designs
    designs

    You can thank Knorr for the tone and mentality of the Elder arrangement. He always saw something sinister in everyone and his corporate coldness was not the Kumbaya moment many needed.

    I mean who does away with Congregation Picnics.

  • EmergedAsMe
    EmergedAsMe

    Billy - would love to know more about the the elders' worst nightmares...

  • gubberningbody
    gubberningbody

    Unnecessary judicial committees.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    The fact everything was governed by the letters in the policy files, not the bible.

  • serenitynow!
    serenitynow!

    My sister told me that our father, an ex-elder, told her once (during the years he spent out of the org) that most elders are in it for the er, "women" (the p word was what he used) Can anyone shed any light on that?

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    Serenity, thats so not true!! LOL. Even the worst Elder bodies I've heard about, them being in it for the punany wasn't part of the rumor mill. I know of a couple gay Elders who got caught, but I haven't heard any stories of womanizers. Most Elders are older cats with families anyway. The only exceptions I can think of would be ones with potential of being womanizers are those who are coming out of MTS school. Now they, have their pick of the litter.

    Sticking with this thread topic, had I remained a Ministerial Servant, I probably wouldn't have ever been posting on this site. Ever since getting appointed, I've been asking myself where I went wrong. It's the most eye opening event sitting in on your first Elder's meeting. You think you're going to change the world. Next thing you know, you've wasted a half hour to forty five minutes arguing over maintenance decisions. Then there's internal politics. This Elder doesnt like that Elder. This Elder is close friends with that Elder's family. This other Elder is married to the first Elder's daughter. The daughter was disfellowshipped 10 years ago, and the 2nd Elder mentioned feels that the other Elders on the Judicial Committee went too hard on her. And he's been resentful of it ever since. This other Elder is upset because the Ministerial Servant he's been grooming isn't qualified in the other Elder's eyes. Its kind of irritating trying to navigate within people's old animosities and petty beefs. Some of these beefs have been existant for 20 years. Grumpy Old Men who've been serving together as Elders for far too long.

    Another thing I hate, is that people look up to you to some degree, or expect you to be some glittering example. They want their kids to be like Bro.Misery. Handful of years ago, I got talked into doing an interview on a district convention. I was still a MS at the time. I hated doing that. I don't ever want to talk about myself as if I'm somebody, ever. Especially not in front of several thousand people in a arena. Since being appointed, that spotlight is on me all the time. People coming to me with problems that I don't always have the answer to. Married people seeking my two cents. I've never been married, and haven't been in a serious relationship since high school!! What do I know about marital problems?!?!? Parents who are having trouble with their teenage children, come to me for help, since I'm younger than most serving. What makes me sad is often I want to tell them, "I'm sorry, but your kids will leave the truth. Don't feel bad, because 2/3 of JW children leave at some point or another." But no, I maintain the company protocol.

    The worst part as of now though, is knowing the truth about The Troof. I'm a hypocrite. Some days I worry I might slip up and verbalize my reservations on this organization to the wrong person and I'll end up in a committee meeting. My folks know my beefs, but not completly. If I really laid it out there, my mom would turn me in a heartbeat. If I got df'd for apostacy, it would literally kill my father. Speaking of which, growing up all he did was complain about being an Elder. He still complains about it. I asked him about the upcoming Elder school which we just got a letter on. He said to me, "its the same ol crap. It's the same crap they told us years ago right after you were born! The new book they're sending us, will be the same as the last book! You watch!" I told him, "how'd you sucker me into this Elder mess? I feel like you hoodwinked me getting me into this."

    One thing I'm happy about though, is the younger generation of males coming up smells the BS, and aren't reaching out. I tip my hat to them for that.

  • NewYork44M
    NewYork44M

    I was appointed a elder shortly after I figured out the truth about the "truth." It sort of makes you wonder about the holy spirit appointment.

    I accepted becaues of pressure from my wife and because I was too weak to say no. I hated everthing about that part of my life. However, I liked most of the people I served with and had no real personal problems with the "body."

    I am so glad that part of my life is over.

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