So my mother finally asked me about my standing and meetings.

by OnTheWayOut 14 Replies latest jw friends

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  OnTheWayOut

  Good points in Hassan's books, worth a look if you interested in easing out your relatives,
  assuming they have the foundation personality for it.

  Good points for yourself, also. Many of us need to know how we could be so
  vulnerable to the WTS. The first book, COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL,
  will help you address that question for yourself.

  Again, the first book was IMO better than the second, RELEASING THE BONDS.
  But the 2nd will give you the slow approach with progress toward freeing loved ones
  from the WTS. Many other methods are basically chipping away at the doctrines.
  You can do that, too, but some JW's will always go into thoughtstop and revert to
  phrases like "The light is getting brighter." You usually need more than just doctrine
  rebuttals for most captives. Subtle pushes on different occasions- reaching the person
  behind the beliefs- that's how you do it. If it fails, you can always just tell the truth like
  dropping a bomb, and let them decide whether to shun you or not.
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  OnTheWayOut

  It would seem that things are worse with my mother than I had hoped.

  I spoke with her on the phone and she seemed to decide to block out of her
  mind, the things I said to her in the initial post. She asked if we (wife and I)
  had our convention yet. I merely stated that the convention was back in XXX.
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  lisavegas420

  damn

  

  lisa
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  OnTheWayOut

  damn

  Yeah, she's been a JW for so long (since about 1973) that her mind thinks
  the way they want it to. Negative stuff about their doctrine, and apparently
  negative stuff I tell her, goes in one ear and out the other.

  She is, otherwise, an intelligent person. Even on difficult matters like the
  blood issue, she had power of attorney and medical decisions for both of her
  parents, but it was a shared power with her husband. When the blood issue
  came up, she allowed her husband to decide what to do with her (non-JW)
  parents- that way, they got the blood they needed, but she didn't have to
  decide.

  I was taken by her phone question. I didn't have time to think and I was driving
  at the time, so my short answer wasn't sufficient. Now, I will have to start from
  scratch with her. At least I know she wants to avoid a reason to shun me, from
  what I gathered already.
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  Open mind

  OTWO:

  At least I know she wants to avoid a reason to shun me

  That's a pretty good piece of news.

  I've heard others make this point, and I'll restate it, it might just be the most "comfortable" thing for your mother to never wake up to the reality of the WT. You know, the whole, I don't want to admit "I bought a lemon" mentality. Of course it would be great if she could take a stand at this late date like "Mouthy", but not too many are willing to take that plunge.

  Thanks for the update.

  Open Mind