High Ranking JWs removed from ministry? (page 2)

badboy

WHEN IT ALLEGS A PLOT TO COMMIT MURDER,IS IT BEING SERIOUS?

BizzyBee

Any chance of a coherent translation of that gobbledy-gook?

AK - Jeff

Any chance of a coherent translation of that gobbledy-gook?

BB- I seriously doubt it. Jeff

Ok, here's an 'attempt' to figure out what was on that website. I by no means claim to have the story right, but this is how it sounded to me - (I hope this isnt just as bad as the ramblings on that site): It would appear that the writer is claiming to be privy to a certain series of events that he/she believes will touch the top ranks of the organization down to the parents of a certain "he". The events seem to involve a certain "he" who has sexually abused his daughter and also attempted to murder her. The writer claims to have tried to 'help' the 'he' by contacting the father of 'he' (an elder in Pittsburgh). The writer claims to have been 'ganged up on by the wife of 'he' and the motorcycle gang friends of he' once "he" learned that the writer had spoken with the father of 'he'. It was at that point that Bethel sent its representatives (the 'real' apostates' according to the writer)) to try to cover up whatever had happened, by lying to the father, perhaps explaining that the warnings that the writer was telling him werent true. "He", of course is also considered (by the writer) as one of the real apostates who have poisoned Jehovah's Orgnization, and much of the rambling in this piece conveys that 'he' had a certain smugness that he would continue to receive protection from high up in the Organization, and that none of them would ever get caught., when in fact this whole mess of a story is about to be exposed. THe piece is a rambling about how the Organization is about to see a huge shake up, and that a lof of "sleeping witnesses" will be forced to open their eyes.

zack

Hoping4Change:

That was brilliant! Maybe after the higher ups get cleansed you can get a job deciphering Freddy's ramblings!

SirNose586

Any chance of a coherent translation of that gobbledy-gook?
BB- I seriously doubt it. Jeff

I can try....

Stay tuned for commentary on this story.

ninja

that guy on his website talked more nonsense than me!!!

SirNose586

THURSDAY
MAY 24, 2007
OK Y'ALL...IT'S THURSDAY!!
JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE ANY MOVEMENT ON THE SURFACE, YOU HAD BETTER BELIEVE THAT THE APOSTATES INSIDE BETHEL WERE UP ALL LAST NIGHT, MAKING THEIR "GET OUT" PLANS. AND IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH OF YOU TO PRAY ABOUT THIS, YOU CAN "HELP" THEM "OUT".

Commentary by SirNose: Anyone who types in all-caps and uses multiple exclamation points obsessively can’t be trusted to give meaningful commentary on a situation, but we’ll just assume for the moment that this person has some sort of clue as to what’s going on.

Further commentary: Who are these “apostates?” Does the poster mean child molesters? Or people who doubt the Governing Body? In this screed, they are the same.

According to EB (“Even Bethel,” since the person doesn’t give his name), all the wicked ‘poztates/child molesters are shaking in their boots about something. No evidence cited to prove it, though; notice that you’ll not get much evidence out of EB throughout this whole manifesto. Also, if millions of dubs pray for something, it helps Jehober figure out what’s going on inside his own house, because obviously god has better things to do than check up on the reputation of his publishing empire.

CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
ATTEMPTED RAPE (OF CHILD PORN VICTIM)
ATTEMPTED MURDER (OF SAME PORN VICTIM)

These look like the charges against someone. We don’t know who this person is yet, and how these charges came about, but I’m sure EB will tell us.

SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE "HE" WOULD BE WILLING TO LET ANYONE AND EVERYONE PROTECT HIM. BUT THE STORY OF HOW THE APOSTASY WAS DISCOVERED ISN'T ALL THAT IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT, IN FEBRUARY, 2007, "HE" SAT THERE WITH A BIG SMILE ON HIS FACE, AS PHONY REPRESENTITIVES OF BROOKLYN BETHEL SAT DOWN WITH HIS FATHER (A LOCAL ELDER HERE IN PITTSBURGH) AND TOLD LIE AFTER LIE TO PROTECT HIM.

So “HE” refers to an unnamed suspect. For sake of clarity, “HE” will now be Brother Rapist (or “BR”).

Well, I suppose the back-story to this scandal is unimportant now. Thanks, EB, for giving us the whole scoop…

So three months ago, the father of Brother Rapist met with Bethel reps—however these reps are “phony.” Are they pretending to be Bethel reps, and the father was fooled? Or are they “phony” because they are real reps, but corrupt? EB doesn’t elaborate. What we do know is that these reps stood up for Brother Rapist in front of BR’s father.

THAT'S HOW I GOT THE "EVEN BETHEL" TITLE FOR THIS WEBSITE. BECAUSE AS "HE" WATCHED THE BACK OF HIS FATHER'S HEAD DISAPPEAR OUT THE DOOR, THE ONLY THING GOING THROUGH HIS MIND WAS
"EVEN BETHEL IS WILLING TO LIE TO PROTECT ME!".

Amazing! EB is psychic and can read other people’s minds!

SORRY, BUT BETHEL ISN'T SET UP TO PROTECT MURDER MINDED, RAPE PLOTTING, CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS. THAT'S THE DEVIL'S DOMINION. THE FACT THAT "HE" STILL THINKS THAT THE DEVIL WILL EVENTUALLY "COME THROUGH" FOR HIM SHOWS HOW FAR OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY "HE" IS.

EB—obviously the head of Bethel, for all his vast knowledge—explains to us how Bethel works. Unfortunately EB leaves out the part about the 24k+ known pedophiles list. Or perhaps EB is right after all: the same machine that protects child molesters might not protect the ones who want to photograph them and then murder them. The devil is in the details…

And speaking of the devil, EB’s psychic abilities are further highlighted for us because EB knows that Brother Rapist believes the devil will protect him further. However, Brother Rapist has every reason to believe this. Let’s think about this for a moment: Brother Rapist was protected by Bethel Reps—either real representatives who are corrupt, or fake brothers who convinced BR’s father. “The devil’s dominion” means protecting murdering-raping-pornographers (“MRPs”). Sounds like “the Devil” came through for Brother Rapist. If the devil loves MRPs so much, the devil would then make sure that he can do it again. EB makes an illogical conclusion.

NOW...IF ANYONE OUT THERE THINKS THAT THE APOSTATES INSIDE BETHEL WON'T PUT THOSE PICTURES OF CHILD PORN ON A BETHEL COMPUTER, THEN RUN OUT THE BACK DOOR, LEAVING A REAL BIG MESS, YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO SQUARE #1.

Yes, you’d better believe those wicked apostates/child molesters will leave pictures that cannot possibly be deleted on computers! But tell us, EB, what’s square (#)1?

1. THE DEVIL WILL NEVER BE YOUR FRIEND.

Really? Sounds like “the devil” already made a friend in Brother Rapist.

THAT'S WHY THE PRINTED MATTER THAT'S READY TO BE PASSED OUT AT THIS WEEKEND'S DISTRICT CONVENTION WORRYS ME. WITH APOSTASY GUIDING EVERY MOVE THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION MAKES, AND OVERSEERS THAT HAVE DECIDED TO HIT THE "SNOOZE BUTTON", THERE'S TOO MUCH CHANCE FOR TOO MUCH TO GO TOO WRONG.

EB is all alone in an organization corrupt to the core (which confirms that EB must be high in the chain of command to know all this). What’s this printed information? We’ll have to see what “too much” goes “too wrong [sic].”

IT'S KIND OF IRONIC THAT PEOPLE WHO GO AROUND SAYING "WAKE UP!" ARE SLEEPING RIGHT THROUGH THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME PERIODS. THIS IS A TIME TO GATHER AROUND AND SEE YOUR BETHEL HEADQUARTERS (AND OTHER INFESTED PLACES) CLEANED UP.

Which people are saying “wake up?” Witnesses? Non-witnesses? EB doesn’t elaborate, once more. Apparently this cancer will be removed very soon, but by whom? According to the last paragraph, the leadership is “apostate.”

BE HONEST...IF YOU TURN ON THE NEWS THIS WEEKEND, AND THE TOP STORY IS ABOUT HOW THE WITNESSES WERE CAUGHT RED-HANDED WITH CHILD PORN, WHAT THEN?!

“Be honest” about what, how you would feel? EB needs to take some writing lessons.

BE HONEST...SINCE "HE" ALREADY TRIED SEVERAL TIMES TO RAPE AND KILL HIS WIFE'S CHILD, (AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY'RE SET UP FOR A "ONE LAST CHANCE") HOW WILL IF FEEL TO LOOK AT THE NATIONAL NEWS AND SEE HOW "JEHOVAH WITNESSES CONDONE CRIME" SPLASHED ALL OVER THE SCREEN !

Oh, so now Brother Rapist has tried to do this several times. No evidence is cited to prove this, of course. A back-story would’ve been nice…

EB needs to read a paper. No respected organ would put something vague like “Jehovah’s Witnesses Condone Crime” across the screen. Furthermore, the news world doesn’t care that much about in-house witness scandals, unless it’s particularly gruesome. I doubt it would make national news. But be honest...how will if feel? HOW WILL IF FEEL?

THIS ISN'T PERSECUTION, THIS IS APOSTASY.

Well, no one said it was persecution.

99.9% OF THE TROUBLE THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING INSIDE YOUR ORGANIZATION, IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF THE APOSTASY MINDED "INSIDERS" WHO ARE TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR ORGANIZATION FROM INSIDE. THE SAME ONES WHO EASILY SENT REPRESENTITIVES TO TELL LIES THAT "PROTECTED" THEIR "INVESTMENT".

Now we know—these "representitives" were real. Looks like EB’s got a big problem, because (a statistically accurate, I'm sure) 999 problems out of 1000 are caused by apostasy. The same people who have authority to send reps out to protect "the devil's dominion" are trying to destroy the org from the inside. It looks like whoever’s going to clean out the org has got plenty of work to do.

THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THIS. "HE" IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING SATAN LIVING SO COMFORTABLY INSIDE GOD'S HOUSE. WITHIN MINUTES OF HIS FATHER COMING OUT AND SAYING
"YES. MY SON CONFIRMED THE UNCLEANESS!"
THE DEVIL WOULD FIND HIMSELF ON THE SIDEWALK, WITH A BRUISE IN THE SHAPE OF A FOOTPRINT ON HIM.

So according to EB, as soon as Brother Rapist is gone, there will be no more problems, ever, for Bethel. Phew!

But apparently this won’t happen. It’s good to know that the devil, a spirit being, would materialize just so he could get a boot to his evil ass.

GUESS WHAT?! I'M STILL ALIVE!!

NO WAY!!!

THE DEAL WAS THAT IF I'M SITTING AT THIS COMPUTER LYING, THAT MAKES ME THE APOSTATE. I'M HERE AND STILL CONFIDENT THAT, IN THE END, TWO THINGS WILL HAPPEN...

So wait, EB could be lying? He didn’t confirm for us whether he’s telling the truth or not. It’s not a very good way to write, to just abandon a thought like that.

GOD'S HOUSE WILL BE CLEANED.
THE OVERSEERS WILL BE FORCED TO "WAKE UP!".

Great! How’s this going to happen? EB doesn’t say.

YESTERDAY, I SPENT HOURS, SENDING THIS WEBSITE OUT TO AS MANY E-MAIL ADDRESS THAT I COULD FIND, ASSOCIATED WITH WITNESSES. YAHOOGROUPS, YAHOO ANSWERS, ETC. THAT'S ON TOP OF THE THREE HOURS OF WALKING TO AND FROM THE LIBRARY.
DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS A JOKE OR GAME TO ME.

Whoa there, chief, we take you seriously! I’d say your writing abilities are a joke, though. Continue with your first-class gumshoeing.

AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'M NOT CONCERNED. IF HE GETS HIS FINAL CHANCE TO RAPE AND KILL HIS WIFE'S CHILD, THAT'S ON THEM. I SPENT ALMOST TWO YEARS TRYING TO WARN THEM ABOUT HIM, AND ALL HE DID WAS SMILE AND PLOT OUT HOW TO CARRY OUYT HIS PLANS. HE SMILED THE WARM SMILE THAT ALL PHONY PEOPLE DO. THEN, WHEN HER MOTHER WASN'T HOME...
HE WENT FOR IT.

Who did EB try to warn? Consistent with this blog entry, the leadership is apostate. EB doesn’t differentiate between “apostate insiders” and the genuine “good guys.” If that’s the case, then why did he waste his time? It doesn’t seem like the leadership did anything, because Brother Rapist was free to do as he pleased. That, or EB just presented the same “airtight case” to them as he does to us—which would explain why after two years, nothing happened.

BUT WHEN I TRIED TO GET HIS FATHER TO HELP HIM, THAT'S WHEN THE APOSTASY INSIDE BETHEL REARED IT'S UGLY HEAD. THAT'S WHEN "HE" GOT THE "WARMEST" SMILE AND THOUGHT "EVEN BETHEL". YOU CAN'T BLAME ANYONE WHO'S INVOLVED IN THIS, IF THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT APOSTASY IS, OR HOW IT WORKS. THAT'S WHY HE SMILED WHEN HE HAD EVERYONE FROM HIS WIFE TO HIS MOTORCYCLE GANG FRIENDS ALL TRYING TO GANG UP ON ME, JUST TO PROTECT HIM. I IGNORED THEM. AND NOW THAT IT ALL HAS PLAYED OUT LIKE I TOLD THEM IT WOULD, "HE" WOULD STILL RATHER PLAY WITH THE DEVIL. BUT WHEN THE DEVIL AND GOD BOTH GET TIRED OF THIS LAME GAME OF HIS, THAT'S WHEN THE SMILE WON'T BE AS WARM.

So EB personally intervened in this meeting between BR’s father and the Bethel Reps. Noted is Cliché #435, “reared its ugly head.”

Amazing that EB is the only one who knows “what apostasy is” or “how it works.” As the head of Bethel, EB sure knows a lot. He should share that knowledge with others.

So wait, Brother Rapist’s wife is in on this, plus some unknown “motorcycle gang” members? Is this a metaphor for the Bethel reps? Dubs don’t ride hogs. EB doesn’t elaborate, of course. Also, the devil and god play games together and can get tired of said “games.”

DO I FEEL SORRY FOR HIM?!
NOPE...

What made us think you feel for him? Waste of space.

IT TAKES A SPECIAL MENTALITY TO LIVE AN APOSTATE LIFE. YOU DON'T JUST WAKE UP AND SAY THAT YOU'LL BEGIN TO HATE GOD.

This is very true. It takes a little bit of 607, a little bit of Crisis of Conscience, a little bit of Silentlambs…of course, hating god is different from hating the WTS. EB doesn’t make that distinction, like a good little dub. Besides, how do we know that Brother Rapist doesn’t love the organization? That’s the problem of calling an apostate a child molestor—he could be the latter without being the former.

IF ANY OF YOU HAD SEEN HOW PROUD "HE" WAS TO HELP THEM DESTROY BETHEL, EVEN THOUGH I WARNED HIM THAT HIS PARENTS WOULD BE AMONG THE FIRST TO BE ROUNDED UP AND JAILED...HE JUST LAUGHED.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

EB gets weirder. What would Brother Rapist’s parents get jailed for? Unless they are accomplices somehow, nothing can happen to them.

NOW THAT "HE" HAS SEEN THAT APOSTASY HAS NO "HUMAN" QUALITIES, HE STILL WANTS TO SIDE WITH THE LOSERS.
NO...I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR HIM.

Brother Rapist has already made friends with the devil and with the apostate leadership of the organization. Sounds like they have all the power. Besides, EB doesn’t tell us how everything’s going to be fixed. There's no reason to feel sorry for Brother Rapist--he'll get to rape again, he's in good with the apostate leadership, plus his parents are going to be arrested first, not him.

I FEEL SORRY FOR THE WITNESSES WHO HAVE SUFFERED DUE TO SLEEPWALKING OVERSEERS, AND APOSTATE LEADERSHIP. I'M CONFIDENT THAT IN THE END, ALL APOSTATES, AND THOSE WHO PROTECT THEM, WILL GET THIER JUST REWARD.

How will all these people get their "just reward?"

NEXT WEEK, I'LL PUT THE EVIDENCE HERE ON THIS SITE FOR ALL TO SEE. THEN YOU'LL SEE HOW "EVEN BETHEL" HAS BEEN CORRUPTED BY THESE "INSIDERS".

If it’s as hard-hitting as this newsflash was, then oh boy!

BizzyBee

THOUGHTS (and thank you sir and hoping for your valiant efforts):

Somewhere a village is missing an idiot.
You can't be breaking yer meds in half!

twinflame2

Let's hope for a coherent cliff notes version.

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