The JW lady came back/Who really is our Mediator?

by Guest with Questions 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • ringo5
    ringo5

    If you really want to know what the current light is on who they feel is the "Alpha and Omega", you really need to check your watch....

    Here is a listing of their previous writings identifying who this signifies:

    Who is the One who is coming Rev 22:12
    The Finished Mystery 1917….. Jesus1:8. I am THE Alpha and I AM ALSO THE Omega .— Alpha is the first letter, and Omega the last letter, of the Greek alphabet.The Beginning and the Ending .— "Our Lord's great honor is shown in that He was not only the first of God's creation, but the last. From this we are to understand that the great Jehovah did not directly employ His own power in creating either men or angels; but that He delegated His power to His Only-begotten Son."— Z.'93-115. Saith the Lord GOD .— But not the clergy; they will have none of this doctrine.Which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty .— "It is since His resurrection that the message has gone forth— 'All power in Heaven and in earth is given unto Me.' (Matt. 28:18.) Consequently it is only since then that He could be called
    22:12. [And] behold, I come quickly.— See Rev. 16:15; 22:7, 10, 20. The Lord Himself becomes the speaker.And My reward is with Me, to [give] BE GIVEN every man.— Every man in Christ.According as his work [shall be] IS.— The Church's work is practically finished. The reward is given on the basis of the work already done, in character development and in the natural outgrowth of that development— works.
    22:13. I am Alpha and Omega, THE FIRST AND THE LAST, the Beginning and the End, [the First and the Last].— "Our Lord tells us over and over again (See Rev. 1:8, 11, 17; 2:8; 3:14; 21:6), that He is the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last, of the creation of God."— Z.'93-115.
    FM337
    22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.— All down the Age the Church has had this Message; all down the Age holy men of God have sought to understand its mysteries; all down the Age it has remained a closed book. But now the Mystery of God is finished; and the object of keeping the book closed is accomplished. God wished the world to know when the time for the complete removal or error and for the establishment of His Kingdom would come; and so He enables the last members of His Church to give the Message.

    *** w52 4/15 p. 242 The Field of Bible Prophecy…JehovahJehovah is the great Author and Finisher of his works, and this is so indicated in Revelation 1:8 (NW), where it says: “‘I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says Jehovah God, ‘the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.’” Only Jehovah God knows the end from the beginning and therefore can foreknow future events in accord with his purposes. (Isa. 46:9, 10, AS


    *** w55 7/1 p. 387 Christ’s Coming an Academic Question? …..Jesus
    Jesus associated his return with the rewarding of his followers. Said he: “If I go my way and prepare a place for you, I am coming again and will receive you home to myself, that where I am you also may be.” And again: “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is.” Paul understood it this way, for he wrote: “I have fought the right fight, I have run the course to the finish, I have observed the faith. From this time on there is reserved for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give me as a reward in that day, yet not only to me, but to all those who have loved his manifestation.”—John 14:3; Rev. 22:12; 2 Tim. 4:7, 8, NW.

    w67 11/15 p. 680 Make Up Your Mind Now as to Whom You Will serve..JehovahJehovah God himself next speaks to John, revealing the critical situation, the extreme danger if any one of God’s anointed ones becomes lax in the least way toward righteousness. Jehovah says: “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is.”—Rev. 22:12.


    *** w67 11/15 pp. 679-680 Make Up Your Mind Now as to Whom You Will Serve ***All these publications have received worldwide distribution and have not been revised or altered to please the religious beliefs nor the customs and practices of different peoples of earth. No, the unadulterated truth of the prophecy has been proclaimed to all.

    *** w76 11/15 p. 700 A Revelation—of Jehovah’s Will and Purposes ***JesusAgain, those observing the words of this prophecy are pronounced “happy.” Then the invitation is given to all who hear to take the water of life free. And those who would add to or take away from the words of this prophecy are warned of the consequences. Upon hearing Jesus promising to come quickly, John replies, “Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.”—Rev. 22:7-21.

    *** g78 8/22 p. 28 Who Is “the Alpha and the Omega”? *** JehovahFinally, at Revelation 22:12, 13, we read: “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” This quotation appears among others that are ascribed to an angel and to Jesus Christ. Before these words are quoted in the book of Revelation, the angel who was instrumental in presenting the revelation to the apostle John spoke. (Rev. 22:8, 9) Then, after the quotation that begins with Revelation 22:12 and ends with the words of verse 15, we find the statement: “I, Jesus, sent my angel.” (Rev. 22:16) Since the context does not necessitate our attributing the words of Revelation 22:12, 13 either to the angel or to Jesus, they could have originated with another speaker. Consistent with the rest of the book of Revelation, “the Alpha and the Omega” must be the Almighty God. He is the One who comes in the capacity of a judge to reward and to punish individuals according to their works.

    *** w78 10/1 p. 15 “Keep on the Watch” ….Jesus6 Also, in his final revelation concerning “the things that must shortly take place,” Jesus again stresses the suddenness with which he comes:
    “I am coming to you quickly . . . I am coming quickly. Keep on holding fast what you have.”—Rev. 2:16; 3:11.
    “Look! I am coming quickly. . . . Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me. . . . Yes; I am coming quickly.” (Rev. 22:7, 12, 20)
    In response to these last expressions of our Master, surely each one of us joins with the apostle John in saying: “Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.”


    *** w88 6/15 p. 20 Detest Utterly the World’s Disgraceful Course …JehovahListen to how God himself describes, in his last recorded words in the Bible, the outcome for those who serve him and for those who do not: “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. . . . Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority to go to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and the fornicators and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone liking and carrying on a lie.”—Revelation 22:12-15.

    1988 Rev Climax
    *** re chap. 44 p. 316 Revelation and You ***Jehovah
    6 Jehovah, the King of eternity, now addresses readers of Revelation for the last time in the prophecy, saying: “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority to go to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and the fornicators and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone liking and carrying on a lie.”—Revelation 22:12-15.

    *** re chap. 44 p. 319 Revelation and You ***Jesus15 Jesus now adds a final word of encouragement: “He that bears witness of these things says, ‘Yes; I am coming quickly.’” (Revelation 22:20a) Jesus is “the faithful and true witness.” (Revelation 3:14) If he bears witness to the visions of Revelation, they must be true. Both he and Jehovah God himself repeatedly stress the fact that they are coming “quickly,” or soon, Jesus here saying that for the fifth time. (Revelation 2:16; 3:11; 22:7, 12, 20)


    *** w99 12/1 p. 19 Be Happy Readers of the Book of Revelation ***Jehovah
    19 Jehovah himself states: “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is.” (Revelation 22:12)

    They also make statements which seem to conflict with their wishy-washy approach to bible interpretation, if you get them to read their own literature...

    *** w53 1/1 p. 31 Questions from Readers ***
    So we must be reasonable. When we see an expression that is applied to Jehovah several times in its unlimited sense, and then come across it again but not specifically indicated as applying to Jehovah, we cannot become flighty and switch the expression to Christ Jesus; and especially when we note that it is applied elsewhere, not in its unlimited sense, but only with definite limitation of meaning. Trinitarians try to capitalize on this expression to show it was used indiscriminately for either God or Christ, and in this way show God and Christ are the same. But logic and reason do not allow this, no more than do many other texts in the Bible.


    *** w76 5/15 297-8 Preaching Christ-Through Envy or Goodwill? ***


    It is a serious matter to represent God and Christ in one way, then find that our understanding of the major teachings and fundamental doctrines of the Scriptures was in error, and then after that, to go back to the very doctrines that, by years of study, we had thoroughly determined to be in error. Christians cannot be vacillating—‘wishy-washy’—about such fundamental teachings. What confidence can one put in the sincerity or judgment of such persons?


    *** w59 10/1 p. 607 Questions from Readers ***
    Questions from Readers
    • Who are the writers of the publications of the Watch Tower Society, and what are their educational qualifications?—M.D., U.S.A.
    The literature published by the Watch Tower Society is published in the name of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. Regardless of who may write certain articles, they are checked carefully by members of the governing body before they are published; so they are properly viewed as coming from the Society

    Good luck though, anyone who finds fault with their logic are labelled "unreasonable"!!!

  • Guest with Questions
    Guest with Questions
    If you really want to know what the current light is on who they feel is the "Alpha and Omega", you really need to check your watch....

    Thanks for the chuckle! Just got on so haven't read your reply yet. Will read and respond later.

  • heathen
    heathen
    *** w59 10/1 p. 607 Questions from Readers ***
    Questions from Readers
    • Who are the writers of the publications of the Watch Tower Society, and what are their educational qualifications?—M.D., U.S.A.
    The literature published by the Watch Tower Society is published in the name of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society. Regardless of who may write certain articles, they are checked carefully by members of the governing body before they are published; so they are properly viewed as coming from the Society

    That's something how they don't give any academic credentials , because they obviously have none . LOL they don't admit having none either .

    Interesting some of that stuff you posted , I was surprised they didn't mention what sort of work jesus was talking about , obviously it's selling magazines for the publishing corporation. I can agree that it is about preaching and converting people but even the new testament says that not everybody should be teachers .

  • avidbiblereader
    avidbiblereader
    I hope that someone can answer me; what the JW’s really believe.

    Apparently blasphemy, the Bible never says this but rather says 1Tim 2:5,6 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—[this is] what is to be witnessed to at its own particular times.

    I choose to believe the Bible and not a man made religion, it says ALL, that encompasses more than 144,000

    abr

  • heathen
    heathen

    I agree avidbiblereader. Everybody prays in the name of jesus and nobody can approach the father without the son . It's like saying that when a great crowd person prays his prayers can't be answered without an "anointed" one in the group praying along and agreeing with said prayer.That is the main way jesus acts as mediator , during prayer and people excersizing faith in his role as messiah . That's what he told the jews as well during his ministry that if they would just ask in his name and excersize faith in him they could get what they needed , such as food or spiritual guidance. IMO

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