Snopes says toasting, clinking glasses has nothing to do with superstition

by under_believer 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • under_believer
    under_believer

    http://www.snopes.com/food/rituals/clink.asp

    Excerpt:
    Each of those explanations is false. While making a racket for the purpose of scaring off evil spirits underpins other customs that carry over to this day (e.g., the tolling of church bells at weddings, and the loud shouts and noisemaking at the stroke of twelve on New Year's Eve), the "clink" is a relatively new aspect of toasting and, as such, came along well after folks had relinquished the notion that demons both lurked in every corner of typical day-to-day existence and could be sped on their way by a bit of noise.

  • SirNose586
    SirNose586

    The WTS argues that at one time, pagan people used to do it, so now you can't either.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Good, New Light! Everyone chink your glasses together at the Memorial!

  • Amnesty Vendor
    Amnesty Vendor

    While I find the Snopes argument to be at least interesting,
    I feel the need to ask the following:

    Who are the writers of this article?
    From where comes their authority to teach on this topic?
    How can I verify the authenticity of the article's references?

    At least, the WTS ... (Oh, Nevermind!)

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    Who are the writers of this article?

    Yes, I should stop serving the WTS and do everything they say because they misled me,

    BUT I should have complete trust in all the other writings I find that are in conflict with WTS.

    I know Snopes isn't trying to keep me in a mind-control cult, but still, I would need more to
    be sure they are correct. I am still going with- WHO CARES WHY IT STARTED? Nobody
    in my party is doing it because they want to scare the demons or check for poison.

  • misocup
    misocup

    I've always heard it's from midaevil (sp) times when people used to try to poison others all the time. If you clinked your glasses or mugs together, that would make the liquid slosh around into everyones glass and mix it up. The theory being that if you had just poisoned one of the mugs, the poison just sloshed into your mug.

    I've never heard of it as pagan to ward off evil.

    http://www.german-toasting-glasses.com/information_library/glass_clinking.html

  • under_believer
    under_believer

    Snopes lists a bibliography of sources at the bottom of every article, so you don't have to take their word for it. In cased you missed it AV and OTWO, here is the bibliography from that article:

    Brewster, Katherine. "A Toast to Toasts!"
    [Cleveland] Plain Dealer. 29 December 1993 (Food; p. E1).

    Marquardt, Tom and Patric Darr. "Accept Your Chance to Toast."
    The [Annapolis] Capital. 22 December 2004 (p. D1).

    Mitchell, Mary. "Here's to You! (Clink) and You! (Clink) and You!"
    The Seattle Times. 9 September 2006 (p. I6).

    Okun, Janice. "Here's to Ya."
    Buffalo News. 1 January 2003 (p. D1).

    Visser, Margaret. The Rituals of Dinner.
    New York: Grove Weidenfeld, 1991. ISBN 0-140-17079-0 (p. 215).
  • Amnesty Vendor
    Amnesty Vendor

    No offense, but I was just being a smartA$$!

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    And I knew Snopes wasn't trying to keep me in a mind-control cult.

  • magoo
    magoo

     

    .........cheers...............

    magoo

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