What is the difference between praying to dead saints and martyrs and trying to communicate with the dead. If you feel they both can hear and answer you.
Hi Toreador. Read the whole thread and you will see that this has already been addressed and explained. The Saints are NO LONGER DEAD since they are resurrected. They are alive to God and to us. Unlike before the resurrection when they were dead and thus could not hear us. Beseaching the saints is NOT communicating with the dead.
Have any of the saints answered you or do you by faith think there is a slight possibility that God will more likely listen to your prayers if you ask others to hound him about answering your prayers. Does God think twice about answering your prayers if he hears others in heaven pestering him for answering it besides just you? Do you feel God keeps tabs on how many times he is asked the same prayer over and over again to decide to answer or not?
By virtue of the fact that they are dear to God and WITH GOD, yes. That is what the concept is. I don't know if God "thinks twice". Does God "think twice" about answering the prayers of friends on earth whom me may ask, "pray for me"? Why do people ask their friends to pray for them?
I truly dont get it.
Well, at least you are asking. Some people just will not get it or believe in it at all and it's not a doctrine that is a matter of salvation anyway. I'm just explaining the doctrine. But this thread is about the Holy Spirit and now I've hijacked it talking about praying to the Saints.