It's Over Johnny....The Demise of Jehovah's Witnesses

by ctrwtf 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    What Vidiot said.

    They are reinventing themselves for sure but this does not imply a demise. As has been brought up previously they could lose 50% of their members and still be able to operate. However, their greed might cause them dearly.

  • brandnew
    brandnew
    Like the people that they dictate over, .....use em, abuse em, and spit em out dirty.
  • scotoma
    scotoma

    It's kind of like their featured article on their web-site.

    "Jehovah's Witnesses-Who Are We?"

    They have an identity problem. So they got a tatoo - JW(.)ORG

  • scotoma
    scotoma
    Just noticed that if you type in JW(.)ORG be sure to edit it by puting the . in parenthesis (.) to break the automatic link.
  • Separation of Powers
    Separation of Powers
    No reason to keep the property up....they have other fish to fry and buildings to build....the current properties in Brooklyn are only valuable due to their location. NO ONE.......Absolutely NO ONE will buy the property to publish magazines....they will update the facade and tear out the interiors to make nice, plush, expensive condos with the priceless views of Manhattan skyline....
  • suavojr
    suavojr

    Wouldn't it be nice if they'd would crash financially and disappear, but it will not happen anytime soon.

    On the other hand, the information age, Google, the internet, curiosity, the apathy within the borg, the callousness and hypocrisy will continue to eat away their hold on the masses.

    The exposure they are getting as an org is not helping them recruit as easy in countries where people have access to the internet.

  • suavojr
    suavojr
    Besides, the more changes the easier it is for them to imply that Jehovah's Chariot is on the move, or should we say on the run with billions in the pocket?
  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    In a way, whether the WTS crashes-and-burns spectacularly or withers away to a wispy shadow of its former self is actually moot.

    Either one should be evidence enough that it's not gods' (or even God's) special and chosen Earthly organization...

    ...so either way, what actual incentive is there to stay?

  • SAHS
    SAHS
    A terrorist type of attack is the very least of the WTS’ concern. There doesn’t need to be any, because the explosion of TTATT on the Internet is proving to be the ultimate means of their demise. Remember, it was “information” – that is, disseminated manipulation of information (i.e., contrived misinformation, sold for a dime) – that got them started in the first place, and so again it is information – that is, the real, factual information concerning TTATT – that is currently effecting their ultimate undoing. And that kind of information is anywhere and everywhere – which, unlike any kind of “donation arrangement,” can be acquired by anyone, anywhere at absolutely no charge whatsoever. And that’s gotta hurt!
  • sir82
    sir82

    there is a mountain of evidence that points to clear cash-flow problems

    Building projects on european mainland are coordinated in Germany. Their budget for new projects increased from 46 million in 2011 to more than 200 million euro's in 2015 (U$238 million).

    Same is happening in the US and probably elsewhere too

    I too for the longest time considered the WTS moves (reducing magazine content by 75%, reducing new literature released at assemblies, laying off thousands of Bethelites, closing dozens of branches) as signs of "clear cash flow problems".

    But what if we've misread all this?

    What if the plan to transform from [a printing company masquerading as a religion] to [a real estate development corporation masquerading as a religion] has been in the works for well over a decade?

    If you are getting out of the printing business, you don't need more print content, you don't need anywhere near the labor force, and you don't need as many branch offices spread out around the world.

    I think we've been misreading the evidence. There is no cash flow problem at all. We just happen to be in [Step X] of a 20 or 30 point transition plan, and the first [X - 1] steps merely gave the illusion of a cash flow problem.

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