JWs Join Interfaith - Political Organization !

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  • Amazing
    Amazing

    The JWs have joined an interfaith-political organization in the Phillippines. Did they do this to secure more religious rights? NO. The JWs are instead helping to assure that government programs are kept going.

    According to Barredo, to facilitate and successfully implement the various activities under the GPK and SWM programs, the council has chosen Rev. Father John Marlon Bordo as executive officer with the leaders of the Iglesia ni Cristo, Seventh Day Adventist, Assembly of God, Jehovah's Witnesses, The Church of the Latter Day Saints, Baptists and Roman Catholic as members of the board of directors.

    Source: http://www.thenewstoday.info/2006/10/09/faith.keeps.towns.gpk.program.alive.html

    So, the JWs were not satisfied with being a library-card carrying UN NGO member, nor just in a political union with Mormons and Scientologists in Russia; but now the JWs have joined in some government projects with the Adventists, Assembly of God, Baptists and Catholics in the Philippines. The Watchtower is not the "free from the world" organization that they have always claimed to be. They are now getting into bed with big Babylon the Great!

    Jim Whitney

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    It appears that money talks bigger than the WORD. At least in JW-land.

  • Sunspot
    Sunspot
    They are now getting into bed with big Babylon the Great!

    And why doesn't this surprise me.....

    Annie

  • blondie
    blondie

    I wonder if the WTS reasons that although a religious leader is chairing this, that it is a State operation. I tried to get the website for that organization to come up to see if it is "required" but could not.

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    Similarly, citizens in some countries today are required by the State or by local authorities to participate in various forms of community service. Sometimes this is for a specific task, such as digging wells or building roads; sometimes it is on a regular basis, such as weekly participation in cleaning up roads, schools, or hospitals. Where such civilian service is for the good of the community and is not connected with false religion or is not in some other way objectionable to the consciences of Jehovah’s Witnesses, they have often complied. (1 Peter 2:13-15) This has usually resulted in an excellent witness and has sometimes silenced those who falsely accuse the Witnesses of being antigovernment.—Compare Matthew 10:18.

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    What, though, if the State requires a Christian for a period of time to perform civilian service that is a part of national service under a civilian administration? Here again, Christians must make their own decision based on an informed conscience. "We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God." (Romans 14:10) Christians faced with a requirement of Caesar should prayerfully study the matter and meditate on it. It may also be wise to talk the matter over with mature Christians in the congregation. After this a personal decision must be made.—Proverbs 2:1-5; Philippians 4:5.

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Blondie,

    Good find, thanks. The one big difference here is that the JWs were not "required" by the Phillippine government to join anything ... they joined of their own free will, and did so in conjunction with what the Society labels as "false religion." Therefore, the Society has violated its own policy.

    Jim Whitney

  • blondie
    blondie

    I couldn't find anything in the article that said it was voluntary or required. Could you point me to the information that led you to your conclusion that it was not required?

    Blondie

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi Blondie,

    The Phillipines is a democratic nation, and not a dictatorship. The opening paragraph in the article said the following:

    Barredo said that the Gawad Pangulo sa Kapaligiran, otherwise known as the Clean and Green project of the national government has become one of the most successful programs at the community level because of the active participation of government, non-government, people's organization and the interfaith communities.

    The very fact that the JWs are part of an "interfaith" community tells us that they are indeed a "willing participant" with what they call "false" religion. Even "if" the Phillipine government "required" such service, the JWs would then be obligated to "obey God as ruler rather than men" and accept persecution for such civil disobedience.

    Further, the Phillipine Constitution says:

    The 1987 Constitution of the Philippines declared, "The separation of Church and State shall be inviolable." (Article II, Section 6), and, "No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever be allowed. No religious test shall be required for the exercise of civil or political rights." (Article III, Section 5).

    The Phillipine Supreme Court ruled as follows:

    The Supreme Court of the Philippines , ruling in 2003 [1] and 2006 [2] in the landmark case of Estrada vs. Escritor, established the doctrine of Benevolent Neutrality-Accommodation, declaring that this is the framework by which free exercise cases must be decided: In the area of religious liberty, the Court said, it is basic that it is not sufficient to merely show a rational relationship of the substantial infringement to the religious right and a colorable state interest. If the plaintiff can show that a law or government practice inhibits the free exercise of his religious beliefs, the burden shifts to the government to demonstrate that the law or practice is necessary to the accomplishment of some important (or ‘compelling’) secular objective and that it is the least restrictive means of achieving that objective. The government must do more than assert the objectives at risk if exemption is given; it must precisely show how and to what extent those objectives will be undermined if exemptions are granted.If the plaintiff meets this burden and the government does not, the plaintiff is entitled to exemption from the law or practice at issue.In order to be protected, the claimant’s beliefs must be ‘sincere’, but they need not necessarily be consistent, coherent, clearly articulated, or congruent with those of the claimant’s religious denomination. ‘Only beliefs rooted in religion are protected by the Free Exercise Clause’; secular beliefs, however sincere and conscientious, do not suffice.
    Source: Wikipedia.org

    Therefore, the JWs could easily take any "burden" before the courts in the Phillipines, as they have in the United States, and seek exemption from any "required" service as a matter of long standing JW religious belief and practice.

    Also, the Phillipine government promotes interfaith dialogue:

    The Government's National Ecumenical Commission (NEC) fosters interfaith dialog among the major religious groups--the Roman Catholic Church, Islam, Iglesia ni Cristo, the Philippine Independent Church (Aglipayan), and Protestant denominations. The Protestant churches are represented in the NEC by the National Council of Churches of the Philippines and the Council of Evangelical Churches of the Philippines. Members of the NEC met periodically with the President to discuss social and political questions. The International Association for Religious Freedom has a regional office in Manila, and the International Religious Liberty Association held its World Congress on Religious Freedom in June 2002. Source: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2002/13907.htm

    There is simply no basis to argue that the Phillipine government would impose such a "forced" community service requirement on the JWs. However, in your post, the Watchtower Society clearly says that JWs cannot participate if it means that they are joined in with "false religion." Clearly, in the case of the Phillipines, the JWs are joined in with what they call "false religion."

    Jim Whitney

  • littlerockguy
    littlerockguy

    Nothing that the WTS does anymore surprises me. What hypocrits!

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    I guess they forgot this part of the 2006 DC resolution in the Philippines:

    5.

    We utterly refuse to become involved with the futile interfaith movements, as well as social

    programs and schemes designed to perpetuate a system that God has condemned as a failure.
  • blondie
    blondie

    I know that the Philippines is not a dictatorship, but that doesn't preclude the government having certain things required of its citizens. I just would feel it would be more convincing to JWs and non-JWs to clarify this program with more detail, perhaps by contacting the Philippines government. I remember all the research and digging that went on with the UN and WTS association as an NGO.

    Blondie

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