My UN email to my dad, he called the Writing Dept (this is long)
Wow, great dialog! Thanks for sharing that!
Thanks for this Spittle! It floors me just how few within the Org. know anything about this scandal!
I found Dad's comment here interesting; " In addition to what I was told no doubt the brothers saw
they could get as much information through the News Media
and Internet about the goings on at the UN than being in the UN's
Really? I thought the internet was evil and had no reliable information. Maybe they are learning from JWD?
forgot to attach his first email statement:
I am surprised that you are concerned about the Brothers being in
attendance at the UN. But remember the scriptures say Jesus followers
would not be part of the world. That goes without saying that we don't
participate even in the UN. Remember how in some of the magazines,
Awake & WT, how there were articles that were written by brothers who
went out to gather information and they were referred to as reporters?
The NGO Section is for people from organizations that apply for I.D.
Passes so they may enter the UN grounds so they can attend briefings,
forums of those who discuss current issues that are before the UN. They
are NOT members of the United Nations.
"Dad" sounds a lot like my father. Very impressed with the answer's, NOT! Waiting with anticipation for the next installment.
Good letters. I hope you achieve the desired results.
I've just had 2 thoughts on this. Some people really won't like the second - I am NOT an apologist.
1) It's rally heartbreaking when your dad wrote "one day it (the beach) will all be ours". Knowing that this will never come true for him, but he will always live in hope. I do admire his faith and ability to believe, however. I think I do not possess these capacities anymore, which is my loss.
2) I can easily imagine the dialogue that led to the WTS getting on the UN NGO list. I would have thought it cock-up rather than conspiracy. I can easily imagine some twat researcher, with only a couple functional neurons, approaching the UN library desk:
"So what do I have to do to use the library"
"You have to become an affiliate NGO"
"Not sure what that means, but how do I do that?"
"You sign here"
Realise mistake 10 years later.
"Whoops! We joined the "disgusting thing" fan club - better leave and do it quietly or we'll look like complete twats"
Too late to not look stupid, but I think the WTS joining the UN and having the arrogance to think no-one would mind or notice is giving WTS too much credit. I bet it was some minion who set it all up without realising the full consequences. Again, I am NOT an apologist. It is complete hypocrisy to denounce the UN in the venomous manner that the WTS has, whilst at the same time be affiliated to support the causes of the UN, even if only on paper.
I do admire his faith and ability to believe
Funny, I just had a conversation of this kind last night. I had felt a slight tug at my innards that maybe I was being too harsh in some of my letters to family when I pointed out changes like the generation of 1914 and blood - when I made them aware of the UN, Malawi and other issues. I can't separate the hypocrosy of the faith from the faith so I can't admire it. Family - children - raised in the society, gave up their youth, their education, social activities, jobs, pensions or other material assets and marriage in order to promote a religion that promised/brainwashed/taught those children that if they did all of that, they would never die but instead they would live in paradise earth.
Children and families who lived out their lives in fear and guilt, who shunned other family on direction of the Watchtower, who refused to attend family weddings or funerals (general signs of respect) on direction of the Watchtower; children and families who never learned that to love one another without condition is greater than loving an organization and this is never more evident than when the Society directs people to shun their 'friends' and family. In one single swoop.
2) I can easily imagine the dialogue that led to the WTS getting on the UN NGO list. I would have thought it cock-up rather than conspiracy. I can easily imagine some twat researcher, with only a couple functional neurons, approaching the UN library desk: "So what do I have to do to use the library" "You have to become an affiliate NGO" "Not sure what that means, but how do I do that?" "You sign here" "OK" Realise mistake 10 years later. "Whoops! We joined the "disgusting thing" fan club - better leave and do it quietly or we'll look like complete twats" ------- Jerohobobonadad, it didn't happen like that. The document was signed by one of the Govening Body (Lloyd Barry if memory serves) not some brain-dead researcher. Mackin PS sorry about the formatting. This crap site won't work properly on Linux. I think it's been coded by a Microsoft fan-boy.
his next reply will probably either open a door OR will nail that door shut. there usually isn't a grey area - just black and white with jws.
I hope he stops and thinks about the issue clearly.
I thought it had been established that there is no requirement to get NGO status in order to use the UN library.