Another Nail in the Coffin of Lies

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  • greendawn
    I was such a person. I am no longer willing to promote lies or even condone the promotion of lies in the name of God.

    Very true and even more poignantly what's the point of bringing someone to live under one of the most appalling dictatorships going on in the world today.

    They stretched the generation span as much as they could and finally when it couldn't go on any further they changed it to the figurative generation. Strangely enough they still go on about the end being near when under the new definition the end may well be centuries away. They are playing mind games with the R&F's desire to see the end soon.

    All in all they have been manipulating the 1914 generation to promote their interests for 81 years before twisting it and carrying on the deception until this day. Why did it take them so long to realise the correct supposed meaning of that generation? The explanation is this:


  • Liberty

    The stupidity of the 1914 Generation dogma of Watchtowerism is multiplied when the most commonly used understanding of "a generation" is applied. A generation, in any age, are the movers and shakers of that era and not tiny newborns and toddlers. The World War II Generation, for instance, are never thought of as those born in the 1940s but rather as those old enough to have participated in that war. The real people of the "1914 Generation" would really have encompassed the politicians, generals, business and industry leaders, and entertainers of that time, which logically means that these folks would have needed to fall into an age span of 20 years old at the youngest all the way up to many being in their late 60's around 1914. The medium age of 40 for such a "generation" would make the average person from this time 132 years old today and even a 20 year old would be 112 while a 60 year old in 1914 would be 152 years old by now.

    In short, that "1914 Generation" was already long gone wayyyy before the 1995 "Generation new light" took effect, hence the insistance of the Watch Tower Society's 1975 timeline before this date proved to be such a dismal failure. A 40 year old in 1914 would have been 101 years old in 1975 so even this was stretching the limits of credulity. The Leadrship of the WatchTower Society was quite familiar with this commonly understood definition of a generation since that is what drove their "End of The World" warnings throughout the earlier part of the 20th Century. This Myth was busted long before the 1995 "new light". The entire JW chronology is and was a JOKE time proven and not just the opinion of Apostates.

  • AuldSoul
  • Dansk

    What really pigs me off is that those in Brooklyn KNOW they're promulgating lies. How can anyone professing to be Christian, in all good conscience, continue to do it?

    I'll tell you why! The oldies on the governing body are well aware that their prophecies haven't added up or come to fruition but think "What the hell! We've had a good life at the expense of the rank and file. We've had nothing to worry about as even our medical bills have been seen to and we haven't had to do any field service for years (that excuse about us being busy doing other things always works!). We'll be dead before the majority get wise to it all, so we'll continue dangling the carrot of everlasting life."

    Yes, let the younger members of the governing body take the rap!


  • Pwyrdan

    I remember that Sunday in 1995 when the Watchtower study introduced the "adjustment" to the meaning of a generation. Most everyone there was confused, and I listened to the conversations afterward. "Does this mean that the Tribulation could be decades or centuries off?" someone asked. "No, we still expect it any time, but the meaning of a Generation has changed, so we can't pinpoint a date. It doesn't change the timetable." I didn't understand the reasoning then, and I don't now. I think that was their plan. You can't properly refute what you aren't sure you heard correctly.

  • Ingenuous

    Yes, they did stoop to including babies (emphasis added):

    ***w84 5/15 pp.5-6 1914—The Generation That Will Not Pass Away***

    The Greek word rendered "generation" in the Bible has been defined as, "Those born at the same time . . . Associated with this is the meaning: the body of one’s contemporaries, an age." (The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology) "The sum total of those born at the same time, expanded to include all those living at a given time generation,contemporaries." (A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament from Walter Bauer’s Fifth Edition, 1958) These definitions embrace both those born around the time of a historic event and all those alive at that time.

    If Jesus used "generation" in that sense and we apply it to 1914, then the babies of that generation are now 70 years old or older. And others alive in 1914 are in their 80’s or 90’s, a few even having reached a hundred. There are still many millions of that generation alive. Some of them "will by no means pass away until all things occur."—Luke 21:32.

    Since 1914 we have already lived through two world wars and many other major conflicts, along with famines, earthquakes, pestilences and the like. (Luke 21:10, 11) Yet Jesus said: "This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matthew 24:34) Therefore, you might ask: What other major events remain to be seen by the generation of 1914? And can these actually take place in the time period that remains for that generation?


    Happens Next?

    Especially since 1919 have Jehovah’s Witnesses been fulfilling on a remarkable scale and against earth-wide opposition Jesus’ prophecy: "This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14) Yes, this is the work that has to be completed to Jehovah’s satisfaction before the end comes.

    What other events must take place in the period left for the generation of 1914? The Bible clearly points to certain major developments that will lead into and form a part of the "great tribulation" that culminates in Armageddon, "the war of the great day of God the Almighty." (Matthew 24:21; Revelation 16:14, 16) It is urgent that you know what these developments are and that you take necessary protective action before it is too late.—Zephaniah 2:3.

    "It doesn't change the timetable."

    That's code for "Only God knows." Since we don't know what God's plans are - and we assume they must be perfect - then God's plans (which we don't know) haven't changed, even though we (thought we knew but) got it wrong.

    Somehow, no one notices that if we don't know - and never knew - then the Org is plainly a false prophet and have no idea what God wants/plans/will do.

  • Blueblades

    Since 1995 have they talked about "This Generation" in any articles since they dropped the ball back then?


  • IronClaw

    "Millions now living will never die"

    This was of course another part of the lie. Playing Monday morning quarterback now the correct phrase back then should have read something more like this:

    "Millions now living will die and continue to die"

    The Claw ( of the truth shall set you free class )

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