Pretty well, the only xdubs who organise for a common purpose are those who become christians, although not all xdub christians do this. Some of those groups are almost as wacko as the wt. Silent lambs is an exception. The rest of us are a herd of cats, each going our own ways. We come together here, as or when we please to chew on the same bones for a bit, then we are off again, on our separate ways.