Talking to support and contacts at WT HQ

by Juan Viejo2 36 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Juan Viejo2
    Juan Viejo2

    I have a story to share about my calls to WT NY HQ this past week. I was quite surprised by the level of disinterest and lack of concern from the two contacts that I spoke to.

    Rather than jumping right in and sharing my experience - and perhaps "poisoning the well," I'd like to read experiences of others on this forum who had the urge or need to call the WT contact number.

    BTW - mine was not an apostate rant or overly critical of the WT and was presented in a friendly and helpful way. But the lack of interest was overwhelming and I found that I was mostly talking to myself.

    Oh well. I needed something to do while reloading software and cleaning the spam off of my two active computers. I just didn't realize that a call to NY WT could be so sleep inducing for them and for me.

    Please share your stories.


  • DesirousOfChange

    It reminds me of the story of asking a person:

    "What's the difference between ignorance and apathy",

    and the reply was:

    "I don't know and I don't care."

    Seems it could be the new motto of the WTS/JWs


  • Magnum
    Please, if nobody has experiences to share, share yours; I'd like to read it.
  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    Sorry, I was unambiguously instructed by my previous BoE, never to "bother" Bethel again - I was to ask them, and they would make enquiries!!

    Of course, I obeyed them implicitly!! :)


    Hey Juan Viejo2..


    I did a thread on this topic a few days ago..

    "Inform Ant" is Notorious for calling WBT$ Bethel..

    In my opinion..

    This YouTube Video of her calling Bethel has to be one of her best..

    This link takes you to my introduction of the Video and 'Inform Ants" YouTube Video of her "Call to Bethel"..

    Click the Link Below:

    How Honest is the Official Watchtower PR Department?..Check out this You Tube Video..

  • Juan Viejo2
    Juan Viejo2

    Outlaw -

    I did see your thread about Ms. Ant's phone call to Bethel and I listened to most of it. Ms. Ant has her own style and likes to try to manage both sides of the argument rather than find a more palatable approach. That is not, and has never been, my style. I guess that makes me a pussy or something.

    When you hear my audios of the two calls I made to Bethel you will see that my approach was 180 degrees from Ms. Ant's rants - I was actually trying to be nice and helpful. I know - why would I want to be nice to anyone at the Watchtower? Because they are people too and have personal feelings that can be hurt. Why would I want to hurt their personal feelings just because they have been given the rather unpleasant task of answering mostly anonymous phone calls. And a high percentage of those calls will be from people like Ms. Ant who really want to pick an argument with them rather than ask a straightforward question in a reasonable way.

    The purpose of my calls will become clear when you hear them:

    1. Your highly touted website ( doesn't have a contact page or a working email address that anyone can write to.

    2. When anyone sends postal mail to Brooklyn or Patterson, even when sent registered with return receipt verified, no one ever gets an answer unless it's all glowing and complimentary and "please send someone to convert me because I want to be brain dead like all the Jehovah's Witnesses I've ever met."

    AAWA and Cedars and other groups that take a "let's sit down and have a friendly conversation" approach in their letters are ignored the same as those who send threatening and obscene diatribes. I think Cedars has sent the WT a printed copy of his annual survey every year since he began and never gotten a response. I know I sent off the first couple myself and never once got anything back except the delivery receipt.

    So the bottom line is that calling or sending mail to the Watchtower is a fruitless and futile exercise. Emailing is impossible. As you will hear, they don't even care that most Kingdom Halls don't answer their phones or respond to answering machine messages even when those calls could possibly lead to new converts.

    BTW - I have heard from Ms. Ant, but she has not provided me with any way to respond directly back to her. Ms. Ant tends to make all of her arguments long, rambling and unidirectional. I'd really love to have a conversation with her over a cup of coffee sometime so that she could see that not all supporters of AAWA have bulging eyes, horns, or claws - and that most of us are not into porn. I'll be passing her neighborhood sometime in April, so if she wants to have a friendly conversation I'll make myself available.


  • MissFit
    When are you posting your audios?
  • Juan Viejo2
    Juan Viejo2
    Within a day or two. My computers are tied up in creative work at the moment and I can't finish editing the audios until everything else is done. Sorry to keep you all hanging...

    Rather than jumping right in and sharing my experience - and perhaps "poisoning the well," I'd like to read experiences of others on this forum who had the urge or need to call the WT contact number....Juan Viejo2

    That`s what you asked for..That`s what you got..

    You never mentioned you were going to grade any ones efforts..Or Compare them to your own..

    Some people liked "Inform Ants" You Tube video......I did..

    If you think yours is better ..Cool..


    Trying to Blow Out someone Else's Candle,doesn`t make yours Shine any Brighter..

  • Juan Viejo2
    Juan Viejo2

    Outlaw - you win. I withdraw. Obviously you are someone here with enough credibility to judge who's right or wrong. I defer to your judgement. I lose. For whatever reason you feel that Inform Ant's rants and rages should not be critiqued for what they are, then so be it.

    I guess you are right. I got what I asked for.


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