My JW friend just read Crisis of Conscience!!

by fullofdoubtnow 41 Replies latest jw friends

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    I have recently been in fairly regular contact with a long - time jw friend who, despite my da status, decided to put our 25 - year long friendship before the shunning doctrine. She has visited me, discreetly of course, several times, and has read on JWD and other sites when she has been here. She recently watched some of the child abuse videos on silentlambs, and all she has seen has caused her to doubt the truth of the wts, after 45 years as a baptised jw, with many of those years spent regular pioneering.

    It was the local dc a couple of weeks ago, and she only went for half a day, and missed the rest of the sessions, and she hasn't been attending all of the meetings lately either. Only last week she was here chatting on the live help facility, and I lent her COC then. She has read it in less than a week, she just couldn't put it down, and has come to a few conclusions as a result.

    She feels that she can no longer go in the ministry as she does not believe that she would be preaching the truth. She does not intend going to any more meetings, which will inevitably attract the attention of the elders, and I know from personal experience what sort of line they take with faders, but she is ready for that, she hopes. She has many questions to ask them, and I doubt they will be able to give the right answers. She is not ready to leave completely by da'ing: she has many of her family in the org, and doesn't want to lose them just yet. I have reminded her what usually happens to people who question too much, and that she may not get to choose whether she stays a fader or not, but she will face that when it happens. Of course, I have assured her of mine and dedpoets support if the elders do try to crack the whip with her, and she is pretty sure that she will need all the help she can get.

    She is coming here to see us in about an hour, having just phoned me. She will no doubt be reading on the board when she arrives. Unfortunately, she doesn't have a pc at home, but is thinking of getting one, so I suspect we will soon have another newbie to welcome! Dedpoet has offerred to help her choose the right system for her and install all the software, he's good at stuff like that, so maybe it won't be long before she's set up. In the meantime, we have told her she is welcome here, we may well be the only friends she has soon.

    I know this last few months haven't been easy for her, trying to ignore the doubts that she was feeling, then gradually being unable to ignore them, and finally coming to the realisation that she has spent all her life, and she is 59 and was brought up in the jws, in a man - made religion. It's a stunning realisation that you haven't really got the truth, and never did have it, but I do know she is a very strong person, and is honest enough to admit when she is wrong. I am looking forward to her coming here, we both are, and I will update you all later. It's going to be an interesting evening, I think.

    Linda

    btw her name is Marion

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    This is fantastic news!

    Great job!

    DB74

  • Cabin in the woods
    Cabin in the woods

    Well done Linda,

    You have proven to be the best friend she could hope for if you saved her from that religion.

    Hopefully, she can keep this momentum going.

    Mary

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    welcome to Marion!

    i remember when i read CoC.. i had knots in my stomach.. i cried so much. it was an eye opener .very conflicting emotions , i was happy to see that my doubts weren't crazy , i was crushed to realize its just another religion run by men. flawed imperfect men who dont have Jehovahs spirit guiding them. its been a couple of years since i read it and i'm still healing from being a lifetime jw. i was also shocked and amazed at how brothers who'd given their entire lives to the Org were treated.

    so.. hang in there Marion, ask questions, vent, and know your not alone.

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    fullofdoubt.. i wish i had had a friend like you , marions very fortunate to have you around now. this is a hard thing to go thru alone.

  • sass_my_frass
    sass_my_frass

    Hello fodn's friend! (Not sure your name should be on here at this time...)

    It must be a very bad time for you, but just take things carefully and slowly, and for probably the first time in your life, be selfish and consider your own needs as the most important. If the 'unthinkable' happens you're going to have to put aside everybody's bleating and their accusations, and just accept who you are. You're going to need a lot of strength, but you're also going to find it in yourself.

    Keep it together.

    Cass

  • Confession
    Confession
    ...and finally coming to the realisation that she has spent all her life, and she is 59 and was brought up in the jws, in a man - made religion. It's a stunning realisation that you haven't really got the truth, and never did have it, but I do know she is a very strong person, and is honest enough to admit when she is wrong.

    This type of thing tugs at my heart. I don't know her, but I have known lots of well-meaning JWs with good hearts. I can just imagine the profound shock something like this is to her life. The feeling of having dedicated your life to something you now recognize was only a mirage created by others...

    But that's the measure of a person's righteousness, isn't it? When you find out the truth, you're honest with yourself no matter what, and you admit you were wrong.

    The only consolation is, I hope, going to be an equally profound sense of freedom as she eases out of Watchtower mind control.

    Please give her my love,

    Confession

  • juni
    juni

    Hi Linda

    Like Candi had said, it's so good that your friend Marion has you as a support. That is so important to have that void filled by someone whose only interest is to help you - nothing else to gain from it.

    Best to you helping your friend. Keep us posted.

    Hugs.... Juni

  • unique1
    unique1

    WELCOME MARION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • AnnOMaly
    AnnOMaly

    Oh boy! The red pill.

    59 years in the paradigm. I feel for her.

    Slowly does it and don't throw the baby out with the bath.

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