What are your favorite WT misquotes?
We hear a lot on this board how the Society likes to misquote scientists, encyclopedias, and so forth.
What are your favorite and most offensive misquotes from the Society when you went to do some fact-checking?
The ever famous Mantey letters.
When they quote Jesus:
Luke 12: 32 “Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.
But apply the wrong sense to the words by never mentioning the context of verse:
Luke 12: 1 In the meantime, when the crowd had gathered together in so many thousands that they were stepping upon one another, he started out by saying first to his disciples
Same with the misquotation over the "other sheep".
1 Thes 4:16
the Lord* will desend with the call of the archangel.....
the footnote says *Jehovah
*** kc ("Let Your Kingdom Come") p. 187 Appendix to Chapter 14 ***
Evidently realizing such facts, Professor Edward F. Campbell, Jr., introduced a chart, which included Neo-Babylonian chronology, with the caution: “It goes without saying that these lists are provisional. The more one studies the intricacies of the chronological problems in the ancient Near East, the less he is inclined to think of any presentation as final. For this reason, the term circa [about] could be used even more liberally than it is.”—The Bible and the Ancient Near East (1965 ed.), p. 281.
Reply from Professor Edward F. Campbell, Jr:
I am dismayed at the use made of.... my chronological lists by the Watch Tower Society. I fear that some earnest folk will reach for any straw to support their already-arrived-at conclusions. This is most certainly a case of doing just that.... there was absolutely no intent to suggest that there was leeway of as much as twenty years for the dates relating to Babylonia and Judah.... the 587-6 date can be off by no more than one year, while the 597 date is one of the very few secure dates in our whole chronological repertoire.
Reply from Campbell’s co-author Dr. Freedman
This is one of the best-known periods of the ancient world, and we can be very sure that the dates are correct to within a year or so, and many of the dates are accurate to the day and month. There is therefore absolutely no warrant for the comments or judgments made by the Watch Tower Society based on a statement about our uncertainty. What I had specifically in mind was the disagreement among scholars as to whether the fall of Jerusalem should be dated in 587 or 586. Eminent scholars disagree on this point, and unfortunately we do not have the Babylonian chronicle for this episode as we do for the capture of Jerusalem in 597 (that date is now fixed exactly). But it is only a debate about one year at most (587 or 586), so it would have no bearing upon the views of the Jehovah's Witnesses who apparently want to rewrite the whole history of the time and change the dates rather dramatically. There is no warrant whatever for that.
The increasing light as applied to dogmas of the WTS, in fact it applies to the lifestyle of the righteous, it's a clumsy attempt to cover their dogmatic incompetence.
There can be no wrong dogmas in a truly God chosen and directed organisation even with imperfect human leaders.
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(In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.)
Joh 1:1In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
PS Ilike carlas too!
Actually I always thought a Misquotes site would be a really good sister site to Quotes.
The setup is key though, otherwise the dub will read the quote thinking it means what the wt is trying to say it means, then when they read the actual quote they will fool themselves into believing that the wt didn't actually say that.
I thought a neat little interactive would be key. Show a quote, offer a multiple choice list of what you actually think the quote means... then show the actual quote and ask what it really means.
There really are a ton of these. The trinity brochure, the blood brochure, the ante-nicene fathers....
Thanks Rebel8 for that link. I remember this quote from the creation book:
Watchtower says: According to Carl Sagan, fossils could prove there is a Creator.-- Creation Book: Ch5 p.70 Source says: The quote in context states fossils prove the unlikelihood of a competent Creator. (Note: Carl Sagan does not speak highly of the WTS; in Broca’s Brain, he discussed the false apocalyptic predictions it made and how it reinvented its past statements when its predictions didn’t come true. He refers to this as “shamelessly dishonest”.)
I remember how we all marvelled that someone like Carl Sagan could point to the existence of a Creator. It simply wouldn't occur to any brainwashed jw to look at a quote like that in context. It's little wonder that he referred to the wts as "shamelessly dishonest".