UPDATE! 'Local Needs' Part on Apostates!

by drew sagan 41 Replies latest jw friends

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    I'm not kidding. It has been less than TWO weeks since I discussed with an Elder some of the problems I had about the WTS. One discussion. Since then I have missed about only about 3 meetings. The Elder said that he wasn't going to mention what we discussed to anybody. Well, that has really turned out to be quite false.
    Last night my wife gets home from the meeting and says while laughing "You won't belive this!" Last night at the meeting the local needs part was about being cautious when dealing with apostates. She said she had to really fight from busting out laughing. One quote was "now if people really have questions or are confused by something we teach, we really want to help them. But if someone is an apostate, stay away from them!"
    I find all of this quite amusing. I talk to one elder for a few hours and now they have to put the entire congregation on red alert. This is just stupid. It's great because my wife who has been riding the fence on the entire thing has found this scenero to be totally out of line and rediculious. So it looks like their not doing much to try and win her over as well. Better just "hand them both over to satan" and move on. In the words of my wife "you'r just considered dirt now, they just want to wipe their hands and move on".
    How can these guys think they have the truth when they get so scared of somebody asking them a stinking question! I know it was to be expected, but still gives you a shock when it happens.
    Well, lets see what the next few weeks hold. Never a dull moment when you question the 'truth'. Three years of local needs telling the friends to come to meetings more and go out in service. Then all of a sudden this week an apostate warning. Go figure.
    Stay tuned for more to come......

  • jwfacts

    It often seems to end up that even though the husband can not convince the wife about the organisation, the way the elders treat the husband ends up opening the wifes eyes to the truth, or visa versa.

  • Jourles

    Heh, and I've always wondered what type of 'local needs' talk was given right after I was df'd. I can't imagine it strayed too far from yours.

  • unique1

    Simply insane. You know everyone was sitting there, looking around, trying to figure out who the apostate was.

  • diamondblue1974

    Typical cult action; demonise the potential dissent!


  • desertlily

    Good Morning Everybody:

    Just a thought to share, but once your eyes are opened to the truth about the truth, the Scriptures regarding the indentity of "unbelievers" takes on a whole new meaning to those related to us in the faith!

    2 Corinthians 4:3-6

    3 If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, 4 among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through. 5 For we are preaching, not ourselves, but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as YOUR slaves for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God is he who said: “Let the light shine out of darkness,” and he has shone on our hearts to illuminate [them] with the glorious knowledge of God by the face of Christ.

    Much Christian Love and Light to All



  • snarf

    Wow, that is amazing, all because you asked a few questions. Maybe you should remind them about how Jesus taught. He never answered a direct question. He taught by asking questions to help the people fully understand for themselves. Tell them you were just following Jesus' examples to fully understand the Org...

  • tan
    One quote was "now if people really have questions or are confused by something we teach, we really want to help them. But if someone is an apostate, stay away from them!"

    If you ask the wrong question...you'll be disfellowshipped. They only help to escort you out of the organization. You went to him out of geniune concern and he went to everyone else with a warning. I'm sure once they tell their pioneer wives that'll be the topic of conversation.

  • Finally-Free

    That's what happens when you are not content with the spiritual pablum provided by the society and begin associating with us demonized apostate bastards. Shame on you for believing that "Truth" should be able to withstand close scrutiny! Now people will spend the next 10 years talking dirt about you.


  • stevenyc

    Sorry Drew, I can't discuss this with you. You know how it is. I'm rightious, and your demon-talking-pig-swill.


    P.S. - Have a nice day

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