Great thread jwfacts. I first realised that Jesus (according to wt) is not our mediator when reading crisis of conscience in 2004. I was really shocked when it hit me. A couple of weeks ago during a public talk, as an exercise, I wanted to see how often Jesus was mentioned. Jehovah was mentioned dozens of times, the organisation was mentioned about 10 times, Jesus was mentioned once, though not his actual name, reference was made to him as the ransom. Jesus is continually Deemphasised.