My Sincere Apology and Condolences...

by AGuest 31 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  AuldSoul

  First, it seems to me that if someone wants to send a "personal message," to another and keep such private, they would respond when asked if it was okay not to. Be that as it may...

  Shelby,

  It seems that you are confused. Hopefully this will clear up the confusion.

  The characters "PM" stand for words. The words are "Private Message" or "Personal Message" and the words mean "a message that is intended to be private or personal as opposed to public."

  I think that is a simple enough concept for an adult to grasp. I'm pretty sure you can see the point of a Private Message versus a post on a PUBLIC forum. Obviously, for whatever reason, the author wished the message to be private.

  I know of accounts that have been deactivated due to posting the contents of Private Messages on this forum.

  You seem to imagine a forum in which everyone who posts just sits around hoping they get a PM from you asking for permission to do things. That is not the case. James Thomas need not reply to your request for there to be a reasonable expectation that his Private Messages to you would remain private unless he gave permission for them to be made PUBLIC.

  Perhaps your difficulty comes from the fact that you have nothing to hide. I am not insinuating that James Thomas has things to hide, I am merely grasping for some rationale that could help explain why you can't grasp that Private Messages are considered private unless both parties wish them made PUBLIC.

  If you have nothing to hide perhaps you feel there is no such thing as an expectation of privacy. If that is the case, just say so and I will try to take that into consideration in all future dealings with you. Perhaps, in return, you could strive to comprehend that the world in which you live includes many, many people who feel very much otherwise.

  AuldSoul
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  AGuest

  May you have peace!

  Although I havre been coming here for 5 years now (and was on its predecessor for about 3-4 years before that), and you have been coming for about six months, I am not so concened with being right that I cannot seek peace where a situation warrants it, here, for example, and say that perhaps you know more about how this forum works than I. That could totally be the case, and so I will give you that. I bear you no illwill, no malice, and have tried to understand your perception (though I must admit, I do not). I have also asked that you and others try to understand mine, which doesn't seem likely, right now. So, I will simply let you continue in your... ummmm... thoughts about me... until such time as you are ready to move past them. If that can happen. If not, please know that my peace remains.

  Your servant and a slave of Christ,

  SJ
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  AuldSoul

  you have been coming for about six months

  You are making an assumption.

  I appreciate your concession, it is well warranted. There is obviously a reason for a division between those communications which are private/personal and those which are public. Reflect on why there is a PM system at all, and you will uncover the basis for my correct assessment of this issue. In fact, if I am in error I would deeply appreciate any Forum Assistant telling me—so that I may immediately terminate my membership on this forum.

  I do value my privacy and will not stay on a forum that claims to encourage community support without offering a means to obtain private conversation with those with whom we choose to communicate privately. If the person at the other end is free to post the contents of private messages, I need to know.

  That could totally be the case, and so I will give you that. I bear you no illwill, no malice, and have tried to understand your perception (though I must admit, I do not).

  There's no question about it. You are certainly the bigger person (who learned nothing from the experience).

  AuldSoul
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  unclebruce

  I'm not so sure we "all"... know that, caro mio...
  

  Your servant and a slave of Christ, Shelby

  So Shelby name someone. Name someone dear sister of mine - anyone here who thinks anything other than ".. that Organization was NEVER approved by God; it never COULD have been." A false premise begats a false argument. Thus your house of cards fell.

  unclebruce

  Note to LDH: Yes Shelby is a cool woman offline a wonderful person in fact (DUH!) but here we speak to people and issues as they are presented online. Some agree with Shelby some don't. In this post Shelby's argument was exposed as a logic fallacy (not shelby but her argument was shot down before it left the ground. Quite simple really. Shelby knows I'm a true friend and the truest friends don't bs each other
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  unclebruce

  And another thing Shelby - no mater what JarOfMarshMallows says - you are not my servant .. never have been, never will be - geez you sh*t me off with that - my ancients fought hard to abolish slavery a very long time ago and I find it offensive that I have a black slave (though ...

  beast wishes, skunc
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  Simon

  I can't see where anyone has posted a PM so don't know what this innane nonsense is about but I would remind you that I am the one who decides finally if something is right or wrong.

  LDH. You make an accusation re: moderators but don't provide any context to it. I don't like that.
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  unclebruce

  G'day Simon,

  I think the PM thing is a storm in a tea cup. James didn't seem to mind too much and Shelby sort of apologised... though she may be backtraking lol

  cheers unc

  ps: It would be nice if some kind mod removed a photo of two naked men that I somehow posted in a "post a funny pic here" thread started by dimples (It's pretty foul - have a bucket ready
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  LDH

  Hi Simon, hope you're well. Ask Angharad. Someone wasn't playing fair and she knows who.

  Have a great day.
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  Simon

  Hi Simon, hope you're well. Ask Angharad. Someone wasn't playing fair and she knows who.

  Have a great day.

  Apples and pears, mountains and molehills. You are talking about something completely different.
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  AuldSoul

  It wasn't on this thread, Simon. The post in question is the first post on this thread: Dearest JamesThomas...

  Shelby admits that she asked permission, admits that she took silence for permission, and then apologizes for the possibility that she might overstep privacy concerns while stating that overstepping privacy is not her intention.

  It seems a fairly simple straight-line that if (1) you know there is a possibility of overstepping privacy and (2) you intend not to do that, then (3) you would avoid the possibility of doing so.

  I truly don't see how with that line of logic (evidenced in the post itself) you could arrive at point 3 and proceed with your public post of a Private Message without permission unless you don't actually care about points 1 and 2, in which case the apology would be false.

  Respectfully,
  AuldSoul