Has the Watchtower ever claimed to be inspired?

by jwfacts 28 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • garybuss
    garybuss

    The fools think it's calling themselves a prophet that makes them a prophet, not realizing it's the act of making predictions in God's name that makes them a prophet. Same with claiming to be inspired, they think denying they claimed to be inspired relieves them of responsibility even though they claim to speak God's words that they say God put on their lips.

    It's just like their faithful and discreet slave application of the parable. They fail to realize the designation of faithful and discreet is ONLY given to the slave AFTER the test is complete. There is NO allowance for a slave to be evil, fail the test, be replaced by another applicant in waiting who passes the test, and earns the faithful designation. The Witness doctrine of the replacement faithful slaves is made up by them, not found in their sacred scriptures.

    The faithful slave test is not their "right to govern" a religious business corporation, it's their personal test to earn their reward after their death. There is no Biblical religious "right to govern" like the Society does. There is a secular right to govern.

    The Watch Tower is just a big business with a religious spin used to get members to comply.

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    Click blue buttons for scans! (Shauns research) www.jwfiles.com Hope scans will work after pasting.

    They claim to be the official mouthpiece and channel of Jehovah.

    1. Zion’s Wt, 9/15/1895, pg 1867, reprint,.....as God’s mouthpiece in.....
    2. Zion’s Wt, 7/15/1906, pg 382, reprint, .....the truths I present, as God’s mouthpiece.....
    3. Wt, 7/1/1943, pg 203 He merely uses his "servant" class to publish the interpretation after the Supreme Court by Christ Jesus reveals it.
    4. Wt, 7/1/1943, pg 205 Jehovah speaks to us through his Son....He has appointed his "faithful and wise servant", who is his visible mouthpiece...These directions from the Lord come to us as individuals...
    5. Informant(KM), 1/1956, pg 1, ...And how does he speak? Through his appointed channel of communication- his collective congregation of anointed ones...the Watchtower...to dispense Jehovah's communications.
    6. Wt, 6/15/1957, pg 370 identify Jehovah’s channel of communication for our day......respond to the directions of the “slave” as we would to the voice of God, because it is his provision.
    7. Wt, 1/15/1959, pg 40, 41 ....Jehovah thrust out his hand of power and touched their lips and put his word in their mouths.
    They claim to be a Prophet.
    1. Wt, 1/15/1959, pg 40, 41 Whom has God actually used as his prophet?...Jehovah’s Witnesses are deeply grateful today that the plain facts show that God has been pleased to use them.
    2. Wt, 4/1/1972, pg 197 Who is this prophet?..Today they are known as Jehovah’s Witnesses.
    3. Wt, 10/1/1982, pg 27 .....“prophet” class yet on earth. The “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har-Magedon could not start before this composite “prophet” ends his work.
    They claim to speak in Jehovah’s name.
    1. The Nations shall know 1971, pg 58-62 ,....as a mouthpiece and active agent...... commission to speak as a prophet in the name of Jehovah...
    2. Wt,3/15/1972, pg 189 ....commission to speak as a “prophet” in His name....
  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    We're not inspired, but you must obey us as if we were Christ Jesus himself:

    *** w59 5/1 p. 269 Attain Completeness in the New World Society ***

    The whole body under the direction of the head moves and acts as a beautifully co-ordinated unit, perfectly organized. In the same way Christ, the Head, employs the organization that is his body to carry out his assigned work. His orders reach the whole of the organization on earth through the governing body, and on down through the Branches to the congregations. --1 Cor. 12:12-18; Matt. 24:45-47. To hold to the headship of Christ, it is therefore necessary to obey the organization that he is personally directing. Doing what the organization says is to do what he says. Resisting the organization is to resist him.

  • toreador
    toreador

    Excellent thread with excellent quotes!!

  • uninformed
    uninformed

    You guys are unbelievable! Atlantis that was a great post and the research was the best.

    The WTS is in trouble with this group watching them.

    Uninformed

  • gumby
    gumby
    You guys are unbelievable!

    Nice compliment to the gang here my friend

    Actually, it isn't very hard for anyone to come off victorious when going against something or someone(s) that are in the wrong and can it be proved by documentation....especially when the documentation that is used comes from the very source your going against and the Watchtower meets that criteria 100%. Their own words condemn them even as Jesus said would be the case with those in the wrong.

    Gumby

  • Terry
    Terry
    They claim: to be God's prophet, divinely directed, to speak for God, that God put His words on their lips, but they deny being inspired.

    It's a convenient way to deny responsibility for that which has been proven by time and history to be error.

    It would be interesting to devote some time in parsing the Watchtower claims for HOW EXACTLY Jehovah communicates through

    the FDS and how it differs/is the same as the ancient bible prophets.

    I'm thinking about that right now....

    T.

  • Terry
  • Star Moore
    Star Moore

    Good comments.. I think it doesn't really matter what they claim because if they want complete obedience to every doctrine and every elders whim, which they do, then they are claiming perfect even without saying it. Part of the game is not to actually say it, but to imply it.

    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck it is a duck.

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