by minimus 24 Replies latest jw friends
To be honest, I never heard of Raymondus Martinus, as I didn't really research it. But I also remember my mom saying that when she was a kid in Europe she often saw the tetragrameton in stained glass windows when she went to church. But she didn't know what it meant.
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I don't understand what's the big deal about this name, the apostles never used it, nor do the jews since before the apostles, as for the Christians the name of christ is the most important one, not that which is associated with the obsolete mosaic system.
If you research it carefully, the one thing that we can be certain of is that god's name is NOT Jehovah. Before I left the Witnesses, I made a point of that in one of the talks I gave, and proved how that was true from WTS literature. Yahweh is certainly closer to the tetragrammaton (SP??). While the actual pronunciation is unknown, we can be certain it wasn't Jehovah. As you know, that's a created word of fairly recent origin.
The WTS readily admits that the pronunciation of the name has been lost, and we can't really know for certain how it was said. I found that extremely revealing, and it was part of the reason why Ileft the Witnesses. Here's the one and only true god of the universe, and he can't even preserve his own name! WTF!! Hell, even the Greek gods did better than that.
Have fun!
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Come on now. This has been brought up here before. There are lots of groups that use Jehovah, or some variation. Hell, I've heard rastas call on Jah.
My uncle, a shriner, about popped his eyes out of his head when my dad mentioned the name. He was surprised that anyone else knew about it.
My response would be to ask her if she'd perhaps go to the library with you to research it.
I quoted a list off the net of different churches that had "Jehovah" in its name.
If you really want to get her, show her the Awake that came out a while back on that very subject. The whole point of the magazine was to show that the name Jehovah has only dropped from use by the general public in modern times. The magazine has tons of examples of "wordly" people using the name Jehovah, like a letter Abraham Lincoln, etc. It actually takes the argument that witnesses are not the only ones to use it, but have just continued using it while others have dropped it from the bible and other writings. I wish I could remember the date of that Awake, I only know that it has been within the last couple of years.
So says my mom who is seeing that much of the "truth" isn't really all that true but she is stuck on "Jehovah" being God's name and how only the Witnesses make known his name. What would you say in response?
If she is worried about knowing the proper names of deities, she needs to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deities
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This list of deities aims to give information about deities in the different religions, cultures and mythologies of the world. It is sorted alphabetically.
There are also lists of deities by type; see the articles death deity, household deity, lunar deity, and solar deity.
See also: List of fictional deities, List of people considered to be deities
Related articles include Deva, Demigod, Divinity, God, God (male deity), Goddess, Mythology, Religion, Scripture.
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(see much longer list at Aztec mythology)
The Bahá'í Faith is a monotheistic religion contending that various figures from other prominent religions - for example, Moses (Judaism), Jesus (Christianity), Muhammad (Islam), Zoroaster (Zoroastrianism), and Krishna (Hinduism) were all messengers of the one God. [edit]
See much more complete lists at Celtic mythology and Celtic polytheism.
Egyptian deities are often portrayed as having animal heads in art; as an example, Anubis is often portrayed in statuary as having the body of a human, but the head of a canine. Many gods were portrayed with different animal heads, depending upon the situation. The Egyptians did not actually believe that most of their gods had animal heads; rather, they portrayed them that way as artistic symbolism. This may have been for the benefit of the illiterate.
See http://touregypt.net/godsofegypt/ for the Egyptian Ministry of Tourism's extensive information on Egyptian Deities. [edit]
There are very few written documents about old Finnish religions; also the names of deities and practices of worship changed from place to place. The following is a summary of the most important and most widely worshipped deities.
See also Demigods, the Dryads, the Fates, the Erinyes, the Graces, the Horae, the Muses, the Nymphs, the Pleiades, the Titans [edit]
Some of the most important Devas:
Iswara - One who gives prosperity . Hari - One who destroys sins (obstacles on the way to Moksha (liberation from the cycles of birth - death -birth)). Narayan - The final destination towards which all individual souls are travelling
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In addition to the gods listed elsewhere, there are several mythological beings spoken of in current Western culture.
See also Kitchen Gods. [edit]
Lusitanian (or Ancient Portuguese) Gods were later related with the Celtic and Roman invators. The Lusitani people adopted the Celt and Roman cults and influenced them with theirs. Many Lusitani gods were adopted by the Romans.
Sardinian deities, mainly referred to in the age of Nuragici people, are partly derived from Phoenician ones.
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Note: Ugarit gives us our earliest and fullest snapshot of Canaanite religion and northwest Semitic religion. [edit]
"Jehovah" is not even the correct pronounciation of the word.
Besides which, if I were God I wouldn't want my name bandied around all over the place. Also, I would want some respect, like Mr. Jehovah or Your Highness Jehovah.
And I would insist that the pronounciation be correct. Not just throw some vowels into some consonants and pretend that God will be happy that we at least made the effort. No, if you are going to say it, it should be said correctly or not at all.
Elsewhere, much thanks for that info!
So says my mom who is seeing that much of the "truth" isn't really all that true but she is stuck on "Jehovah" being God's name and how only the Witnesses make known his name. What would you say in response?
I do a lot of work in a local Catholic hospital, St. John's. In every hallway there is a picture with a biblical quote on it. The entrance to the ER has one with a scripture that includes "Yahweh" in it. JW's do not have a patent on God's name, they only claim to. There so consumed with that one little point, i.e. God's name, that they have missed the pure essence of Christianity, that sense of faith, hope, love, and trust that the majority of Christendom seems to have.
