It isn't my home anymore...

by cedars 55 Replies latest members private

  • cedars
    cedars

    Hi everyone

    Mrs Cedars and I took a trip home recently to visit my family. It was a very draining experience and I guess I'm still trying to process what happened and what it all means for my relationships with these people. More than anything I have been reminded just how deeply entangled multiple generations of my family are in this awful cult. It was sickening to witness the Watchtower's influence on my younger relatives, some of whom are only just starting school. However, for all my work online trying to help total strangers, I'm powerless to do anything for my own flesh and blood. This is a bitter pill to swallow, and I may need a bit of time to come to terms with it - assuming I ever do.

    My Dad is still very much in denial over my feelings towards the Watchtower. He can effortlessly start talking about "the Truth" with me as though nothing has happened, garnering my opinion about congregation matters and things like that. Perhaps I encourage him by participating in these conversations, albeit reluctantly, but I don't feel I have any choice if I am to have any kind of relationship with him. The organization is his life, so he can't help but talk about it. If I were to cut him off every time he mentioned something JW-related, things would become strained very quickly - even more so than they are already.

    During my brief visit I regularly felt almost "shoe-horned" into being a Witness again. I had already decided prior to the visit that I would attend a meeting at my old congregation. My reasoning was that, though it would be extremely awkward for me, it would only be a couple of hours of discomfort on my part that would make a world of difference to my family and confound some of the gossip that I knew was inevitably circulating about my current inactivity. In other words, it was worth the sacrifice.

    In the end, it wasn't all as bad as I expected, although I did take a "calm" tablet beforehand so maybe that had something to do with it. My appearance has changed significantly since I stopped attending meetings, and this inevitably drew comments - with one elder telling me to "get my hair cut". He probably meant it in a friendly or joking manner, but I know there was an element of sincerity to his words and he was probably saying what a lot of people were thinking.

    I also had one elderly sister come up to me who I had known since I was very small. She came right out with the question: "People are saying you're no longer serving Jehovah - is this true?" I was astonished by the brazenness of the question, and I asked her who had been saying this? She said she couldn't remember. I didn't want to press her on the issue because she had only moments before told me she was now suffering from dementia. In any case, it only confirmed what I suspected - that the JW grapevine in my old neighborhood was rife with stories of my current lack of interest in "the Truth". Still, I found it unsettling. I could only answer her that it wasn't true and that I'm still a Jehovah's Witness, which seemed to satisfy her. Even so, it was yet another example of my personal beliefs being the subject of scrutiny, and the overwhelming pressure to conform to people's expectations that was an over-riding theme of my visit.

    Another example of this came in a brief conversation with my brother-in-law. We were having a brief discussion about another relative of mine. He made the remark that she was doing "really well at the moment" because she is attending meetings again. He must have known that I was no longer attending meetings myself, so how did this comment reflect on me? Was I NOT doing "really well" any more? Perhaps he hadn't thought it through, and maybe he instantly regretted saying it. Still, it was another moment where I felt I wasn't squaring up to people's standards.

    Then there were the younger family members who I encountered on my trip - nieces, children of cousins, that sort of thing. Many were clearly besotted with the latest "Sparlock" DVD. I spent some time playing with one young niece who I see very little of apart from these rare visits. We were having a silly conversation about something and she suddenly came out with the chorus line to "Listen, Obey and Be Blessed", which (as you can imagine) sent a chill down my spine. It was obvious to me that this had come from the DVD, which she had probably watched repeatedly. Later, on another occasion, we were flicking through a selection of videos on my Dad's iPad together and she instantly dismissed one video because it was "magical". Again, this reaction could only have been a direct product of the manipulation in the new DVD, and it was seriously troubling to witness the effects first-hand in my own family - but be powerless to do or say anything.

    I could also see evidence of division and stifled-dissent against the organization during my trip in some of the older generations. I spoke to one family member who confided that he was unable to speak to his wife about his true feelings toward the organization. In a separate brief conversation with Mrs Cedars my sister expressed dismay that my young niece was having to turn down invitations to the birthday parties of schoolmates on an almost weekly basis. Her husband commented that it wasn't a problem because she could organize a non-birthday party and invite all these children round, but as my sister remarked, what would be the chances of these children all turning up when their own invitations had been snubbed for no clear reason? Again, Mrs Cedars couldn't say anything.

    There were all sorts of little things that happened that I found deeply troubling, but I've probably said enough already. The end product of it all is that I can no longer think of the place where I grew up as my home. I don't feel truly welcomed by my family because they clearly don't sincerely accept me for who I am - only for who they want me to be (or imagine me to be). My relationship with them will ALWAYS be superficial. Furthermore, no matter what I do online or how many people read my articles, I am powerless to help my own family members. This is a deeply frustrating realization to come to, but the sooner I get used to it, the better.

    Cedars

  • LouBelle
    LouBelle

    I felt sick reading how the little one has been influenced by the DVD. It is a harsh reality when you cannot help your family. It can leave one feeling hopeless, just know that it's not only you, we all battle with it and know that we have to leave the family to make their own minds up and respect their choice - no matter.

    Know that you are helping others and take a small comfort from that.

  • Lozhasleft
    Lozhasleft

    More pain caused by the wonderful WTBS. I feel sad for you Cedars. Only consolation is that they are completely blinkered which prevents any real loving response to you.

    Loz x

  • jwfacts
    jwfacts

    Hi Cedars, good to have you back.

    However, for all my work online trying to help total strangers, I'm powerless to do anything for my own flesh and blood. This is a bitter pill to swallow, and I may need a bit of time to come to terms with it - assuming I ever do.

    I feel exactly the same way. You will come to terms with it, though it will always remain a bitter pill. Over time some will leave, and it is great to be there to help them when that time comes.

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    I'm sorry for you, truly because you said............

    for all my work online trying to help total strangers,
    I'm powerless to do anything for my own flesh and blood.
    This is a bitter pill to swallow, and I may need a bit of time to come to terms with it
    - assuming I ever do.

    ........I am in the same boat except my wife left me because I'm 'apostate'(TM) but I have a daughter and mother still trapped in the cult.

    I'm with you bud!

  • nugget
    nugget

    You can only do so much. Someone has to be in the right place mentally to see a way out of the conditioning and your family is not there yet. I am sorry that your visit home was not as comfortable as you hoped. When you are outside of the organisation you feel that you are constantly tip toeiing around so as not to offend those still in. You also have a lot of emotion tied up in family relationships which means that it is easier to talk to strangers and have our words listened to simply because there is less invested in these relationships.

    Keep doing what you can time is on your side.

  • cedars
    cedars

    Thanks everyone! It's good to know I'm not alone.

    jwfacts - thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. I suppose subconsciously I was hoping they would try to interrogate me and I would have some opportunity to try and get through to them and attempt to reason with them, but I suppose it's for the best that this never happened as it would likely have been futile.

    punkofnice - yes, that's the thing with this cult - it often affects your relationships with multiple relatives, not just one.

    LouBelle - yes, I think it was the interractions with my younger relatives that was the most disturbing. I think this is what people fail to realize about this cult, that it deliberately targets children in a shameless attempt to extend its influence over new generations. It's particularly upsetting to see this happening with your own family.

    Lozhasleft - yes, they can't help it I suppose. I guess I was expecting all this to happen, but it's still an unpleasant experience to go through. I will be thinking twice before putting myself through all this again for any length of time.

    nugget - thanks for your observations. On the one hand I agree that time is on my side, but on the other hand it doesn't feel that way when I see young ones in the process of indoctrination that will doubtless impact them for their entire lives. On a separate issue, I really did enjoy spending time with you and cantleave and your lovely kids. It was nice for Mrs Cedars and I to just be ourselves with friends for at least one part of our trip!!

    Cedars

  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    @ CEDARS

    I try to serve as a Christian, and hope that I always will do. I try to speak the truth according to the Bible at all times, but consider my words carefully when speaking with brothers and sisters. I reject (politely) any efforts to assign to me "privileges".

    I try to stir such loved ones' thinking processes by quoting a verse and stating an obvious (non-Org) truth about it. Under the present regime, I feel there is no better or safer way to plant seeds - not of doubts in the Org, but of truth in God's word!!

    Let those whom you care about meditate on Scriptural teachings, rather than on their perception that you are trying to discredit self-proclaimed "glorious ones" (2 Peter 2:10; Jude 8) For many decades, the WTBTS has heavily criticised and ridiculed false teachings of Christendom - Bible truth exposes lies on its own. (Heb. 4:12)

    The sad fact is though, that most fellow Witnesses shrink back in horror if someone dares venture a differing thought from that of the 'Other Sheep' Writing Committee - sorry, SPIRIT DIRECTED GOVERNING BODY, FAITHFUL SLAVE CLASS. The vast majority of Witnesses blissfully dismiss the simple truth that rank & file brothers produce the articles presented - not an elite group of men who demand the praise and credit, seemingly in every other Study Watchtower.

    Focus on the truth, and perhaps the seeds will bear fruit!

  • creativhoney
    creativhoney

    i relate to this so much - i see the hold it has over my own family and yet there is no reason or logic - half of my nephews and nieces cant even explain why they believe what they do. - and the younger ones - i see them because my mum brings them to play with my daughter - listening to them say new system this and paradise that, i really feel sorry for them - sorry for them going through school and being treated as weird. i honestly come away and shake my head. - i hope when my daughter is old enough she will look at them like they are crazy and tell them they are. - my mum has already come under fire for mixing with me and yet they dont even go to the meetings most of the time

    i feel sorriest for kids who are forced to believe it and then never taken to the KH. - i think its cruel - they are believing in something they arent even active in ffs!

  • tornapart
    tornapart

    Cedars, I can understand to a certain degree how you are feeling. As I am still 'in' because of my family, although some of them know how I feel and what I think, it's almost as though they 'block it out'. They carry on talking to me as if I had no doubts whatsoever. It's hard enough keeping up the pretense at meetings and social occasions with friends but is just as hard with family. They know how I feel about FS and meetings but I feel constantly pressured to go. If I say anything that expresses my doubts I'm being 'critical and negative'. If I let it go too far then I risk a rift between me and them, if I don't say enough they become convinced I'm happy with it all again. This is particularly with my hubby and mother. It makes me want to scream!

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