Human Rights Commission complaint over WTB&TS hate speech . . . your input please

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  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Greetings friends . . .

    I've put together a response for the NZ HRC's request for more information as well as narrowing down the nature of the complaint.

    I've decided the best approach is an objection to their literature and what it contains . . . but the implications should be obvious.

    Feel free to offer feedback . . . I haven't sent it yet. Thanks in advance.

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    Dear Mr Hallowell,

    Thank you for your reply to my email of 14th Sept 2011. Please find attached a pdf file of the July 15th 2011 Watchtower as per your request.

    I take this opportunity to add some additional material and background information for your consideration.

    The Watchtower organization strongly discourages association with non-members. What this means for Watchtower members is no social contact with non-members; just the bare minimum interaction that is unavoidable in day-to-day life.

    Even more rigid is the policy toward individuals who have left the Watchtower religion. Former members who have left of their own accord are not even to be greeted on the street. The Watchtower shunning policy even applies to one's own relatives who leave the organization, including immediate family members.

    This somewhat inhumane treatment surfaces largely as a result of the engendering of hatred that Watchtower leaders reserve for those who conscientiously leave the Watchtower organization over doctrinal or church policy issues. These ones are labelled "apostates" and are constantly vilified in Watchtower publications, for example:

    These apostates 'have gone out from us because they were not of our sort.' (1 John 2:18, 19) Hence, they no longer have fellowship with loyal anointed witnesses of Jehovah and their companions, and therefore these self-seeking heretics have no "sharing" with the Father and the Son, no matter how much they may boast of having intimacy with God and Christ. Instead, they are in spiritual darkness. (1 John 1:3, 6) Lovers of light and truth must take a firm stand against these promoters of false teaching. In no way do loyal witnesses of Jehovah want to be accomplices in the "wicked deeds" of such unfaithful persons by supporting their ungodly words and activities in any manner. --The Watchtower, April 1, 1983, page 24.

    In just one short paragraph - five sentences, in fact - these former members are slandered as:

    1. apostates
    2. self-seeking
    3. heretics
    4. having no legitimate claim to christian belief
    5. boasters
    6. in a "darkness"
    7. against truth
    8. liars
    9. wicked
    10. faithless
    11. ungodly

    Please understand I have no issue with current members exercising their conscientous freedom of religious association, in accord with Watchtower policy. What I find disturbing, is the constant employment of emotive hate speech in their literature. Former members of the Watchtower Organisation are simply exercising their own conscientous free religious choice, and seldom, if ever, match the descriptions contained in Watchtower literature.

    Actually, the above quote is quite tame, comparatively. Consider the following Watchtower hate propaganda reserved for those who conscientiously reject Watchtower doctrine:

    True Christians share Jehovah's feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas.
    On the contrary, they "feel a loathing" toward those who have made themselves God's enemies,
    but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance.
    --The Watchtower, October 1, 1993, page 19.

    The obligation to hate lawlessness also applies to all activity by apostates. Our attitude toward apostates should be that of David, who declared: "Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you, O Jehovah, and do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you? With a complete hatred I do hate them. They have become to me real enemies. --The Watchtower, July 15, 1992, page 12.

    Jesus encouraged his followers to love their enemies, but God's Word also says to "hate what is bad." When a person persists in a way of badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of his make-up, then in order to hate what is bad a Christian must hate the person with whom the badness is inseparably linked. -- The Watchtower July 15, 1961, page 420.

    Copies of the Watchtower editions in which these quotes appear can similarly be made available on request

    It is this campaign of hate directed toward a specific group of people, based on a conscientous religious choice, that I object to. My inquiries reveal that similar complaints are being lodged against this journal in various other countries, including within the commonwealth, in response to this ongoing hate campaign being perpetrated by the Watchtower Society, which continues unabated.

    My request is that the promotion of hate clearly embarked upon through this journal be examined in the the light of Human Rights legislation, and to establish whether or not a breach of that legislation has ocurred.

    If such a breach has ocurred, I would also request that the importation and distribution of this journal be curtailed, including stocks being currently held, until such time as the publishers of this magazine, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, address this issue. In addressing the issue, I feel it would be appropriate to request an undertaking that all future publications desist from such practices, and that they also offer an apology, both publically, as well as through this journal, for the harm and distress this has caused to the objects of their campaign.

    Naturally, I defer to your expertise and knowledge in determining the appropriate assessment and recommendations, and look forward to your reply.

    Yours etc

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I like it.

    To narrow down the complaint, can you give examples of who these hate comments are directed to? You might need to translate the WT-speak. It is directed at anyone leaving the society, including children of active parents, and exitng parents of active children. This teaching devastates relationships.

    It's hard to describe if one hasn't lived it, isn't it?

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    I think this was really good and thorough as Mr. Hallowell's requested.

    I am only thinking to mention that this is a growing prominent message by the Watchtower organization given to JWs around the world. Many countries are recognizing this destructive message affecting families and their humanrights globally. (or something like that).

    Also, I saw Mr Hallowell requested a copy of the Watchtower. I am wondering if we send an email to other Human Rights departments to the U.N., the country we are in and each individual state Human Rights department, would it be okay to attach a copy of the WT with the initial email?

    I am very happy with Mr. Hallowell's response of interest.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I am thinking they may need a specific incident to sink their teeth in to. Names, places, dates, and the descrimination experienced. With THAT they may inquire (and be rebuffed) for more information from the society. THAT would speak volumes.

  • man in black
    man in black

    very nice, and descriptive letter.

    I hope that something comes out from it.

  • palmtree67
    palmtree67

    I really appreciate your "non-emotional" approach in the letter. You don't sound like you have an axe to grind or are just a disgruntled ex-member.

    Very well done, Sizey!

    Palm

  • shepherd
    shepherd

    I suggest you keep any literature quotes to material published within the last 5 years, 10 at the most.

  • compound complex
    compound complex

    Excellent, Size! Professionally and objectively presented.

    BTW:

    occurred, not ocurred (2 times)

    conscientious, not "tous" (3 times)

    Copies of the Watchtower editions in which these quotes appear can similarly be made available on request (.) The period is missing.

    Item # 4: Christian should be capitalized

    CoCo

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Thanks for your helpful comments all . . .

    @Jgnat . . . I'm endeavouring to keep the "people" factor out at this stage . . . both the publishers of the literature and the group the remarks are aimed at . . . and centre the complaint around the legality of publishing literature promoting this level of descrimination. I don't want to impute the motives of the publishers too much, nor the effect on the target group. Hope this makes sense . . . but it's an attempt to keep it narrow and negate the need for supporting testimony etc. I have tried to define the term "apsotates" and who they are . . . but will see if I can make this clearer. Thanks.

    @Gayle . . . yes I agree that "enlarging" the problem as being world-wide is good. I'll look again at the 4th-to-last para to see if it can be emphasised further and clearer. My first email was very much a toe-in-the-water. I'm sure an email more of this nature with attachments would still be good as an initial approach. No reason why the UN HR faculty shouldn't get a complaint. Thanks.

    @man in black . . . Thanks . . . me too!

    @Palmtree . . . Thanks Palm, I think that's important.

    @shepherd . . . I don't see too many problems going back 20 years as this is described as an "ongoing campaign." Maybe the '61 quote could go. If you can cite some more recent ones that would be appropriate . . . I'd be more than happy to include them.

    @compound complex . . . Thanks CoCo, your proof reading skills make up for mine (or is it laziness?). Much appreciated.

    Any further suggestions are welcome . . . I'll be sending it tomorrow.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    From the NZ Human Rights Act . . .

    Prohibited grounds of discrimination

    • (1) For the purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are—

    (c) religious belief:

    While the following part of the Act relates specifically to descrimination on the basis of race . . . I am hoping that somehow through the legal interpretation of other parts of the Act and/or ammendments, the following will also apply to religious belief. I'm no lawyer.

    It shall be unlawful for any person—

    • (a) to publish or distribute written matter which is threatening, abusive, or insulting, or to broadcast by means of radio or television words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or

    • (b) to use in any public place as defined in section 2(1) of the Summary Offences Act 1981, or within the hearing of persons in any such public place, or at any meeting to which the public are invited or have access, words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or

    • (c) to use in any place words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting if the person using the words knew or ought to have known that the words were reasonably likely to be published in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical or broadcast by means of radio or television,—

    being matter or words likely to excite hostility against or bring into contempt any group of persons in or who may be coming to New Zealand on the ground of the colour, race, or ethnic or national origins of that group of persons.

    (2) It shall not be a breach of subsection (1) to publish in a newspaper, magazine, or periodical or broadcast by means of radio or television a report relating to the publication or distribution of matter by any person or the broadcast or use of words by any person, if the report of the matter or words accurately conveys the intention of the person who published or distributed the matter or broadcast or used the words.

    (3) For the purposes of this section,—

    newspaper means a paper containing public news or observations on public news, or consisting wholly or mainly of advertisements, being a newspaper that is published periodically at intervals not exceeding 3 months

    publishes or distributes means publishes or distributes to the public at large or to any member or members of the public

    written matter includes any writing, sign, visible representation, or sound recording.

    Indirect discrimination

    • Where any conduct, practice, requirement, or condition that is not apparently in contravention of any provision of this Part has the effect of treating a person or group of persons differently on 1 of the prohibited grounds of discrimination in a situation where such treatment would be unlawful under any provision of this Part other than this section, that conduct, practice, condition, or requirement shall be unlawful under that provision unless the person whose conduct or practice is in issue, or who imposes the condition or requirement, establishes good reason for it.

    The legal advisers' reply will hopefully make this clear . . .

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