Are Most Scientists Atheists?

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  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    James Leuba conducted a survey of scientists in 1916. They were asked a whether they believed in a God who actively communicates with humanity, to whom humans can pray and expect an answer.

    To believe in this sort of God would mean you were a theist. If you're a deist, or agnostic, you believe there's a God but he's not necessarily interested in humans and we wouldn't pray to this God.

    The results of this survey revealed that roughly 40% of scientists believe in this sort of God, making them theists. 40% didn't, making them either deists/agnostics or atheists. 20% didn't know.

    Leuba predicted that the number of scientists who disbelieved in a God who answers prayers would rise significantly over the decades as a direct result of improvements in education and advancements in science.

    The survey was repeated in 1997 (82 years after the orginal, so a lot of time for education to improve and science to advance), using exactly the same question. This time the number of deists or agnostics had risen by 5% to 45% overall. The number of scientists who do believe in a God who communicates and answers prayers remained around 40%.

    In the group that answered no would be scientists such as Andrew Flew and Einstein. Flew and Einstein, however, both believe/believed in a god, just not a in a God who is interested in humanity. Thus they were not, by definition, atheists.

    So, are most scientists atheists?

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    I wouldn't attempt to form an opinion on your question until I knew the body of evidence that existed, the research methodology, and identity of surveyors.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    Google James Leuba.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    Here's a bit more info (it's not hard to find)

    Keeping the Faith
    by Paul Karr

    A poll and a prediction by a prominent psychologist were just what the nation needed to spark a firestorm of controversy. And even though James Leuba's poll took place in 1916, it continues to fuel heated debate today.

    Leuba's survey of America's working scientists found that nearly half did not believe in God, prompting him to proclaim that religion was dying and someday would disappear.

    His work touched off an anti-evolutionary movement that would culminate in the historic Scopes trial where science and Darwinism faced off against Christianity and creationism for the mind and soul of the American schoolchild.

    But now, 80 years later, has that prediction turned out to be truth or folly? Edward Larson, UGA professor of science law and science history and Pulitzer Prize winning author, decided to find out.

    "I am interested more in the trial than in what scientists believe, but Leuba's questions are good ones," said Larson, whose latest book, Summer for the Gods, re-examines the Scopes trial and its impact on American society in great detail. "They provoke responses and give much more insight into how people think than the vague Gallup poll question, 'Do you believe in God?'"

    So Larson replicated Leuba's methodology down to the letter. First he reprinted the exact text of the Leuba survey. Then he located the same source Leuba used to get the names of scientists, a thick reference book now called American Men and Women of Science, and mailed the survey (even taking care to use the same kind of reply envelope as Leuba) to 1,000 randomly selected names in the book.

    "I had no idea how it would turn out," Larson said.

    When the responses had all been received and counted - 60 percent responded, a high rate for surveys - Larson discovered something few would have predicted. The same 40 percent of U.S. working scientists still believed in God (or at least God as defined by James Leuba), while approximately 45 percent still did not.

    Among Larson's other findings: physicists were much less likely to believe in a God than others, mathematicians much more likely to believe in one.
    "It's interesting that it hadn't changed a lot," Larson said. "But not necessarily surprising. In the 80 years before the survey, there had been a huge change in scientists' thought because of Darwin and scientific positivism and relativity. Before that, probably most American scientists would have indicated belief in God.

    "There really haven't been similar conceptual shifts in the 80 years since," he said.

    As many did in the Scopes trial seven decades ago, reporters covering Larson's findings provided wildly differing accounts.

    "It's being spun in different ways," he said. "The Christian Science Monitor ran an editorial exhorting the fact that scientists still do believe -despite the fact that well less than half of the scientists in my survey believed in God - while the Journal of Humanism ran a piece proclaiming that they do not. Is the glass half empty or half full?"

    Larson himself became something of a short-lived media star when the results were first published in the prestigious pages of the English journal Nature. For two weeks, his UGA history and law school offices were deluged with interview requests from major newspapers and radio stations all over the globe.

    "I publish dozens of articles, and most of them my mother doesn't even read," Larson said. "So I didn't expect this at all. It was quite a shock, and I'm glad it's over."

    For more information, e-mail Edward Larson at [email protected].

    Summer for the Gods received a Pulitzer Prize this past April.

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  • rebel8
    rebel8

    OK, so he's the guy who did the survey in the 1900s.

    My hypothesis is not only are most scientists atheists, most educated people are. (I didn't say intelligent, so nobody get all huffy please.) Education increases awareness about how humans form beliefs, human history, and science, so it stands to reason.

    My hypothesis is also that social pressures continue to lead people to claim to belong to a church/religion even though they really don't believe in God at all...and that this social norm has been in place for hundreds of years. Because social norms are usually slow to change, it will be a while before these people go around saying they're atheists.

    I have no empirical evidence for these hypotheses.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    I have no empirical evidence for these hypotheses.

    When you say hypotheses do you mean blind guess? The research shows you're wrong. And due to your lack of actual evidence, should we completely disregard your hypotheses/blind guess or should you be allowed to have your world view and opinion regardless of evidence?

  • cabasilas
    cabasilas

    My biology professor at college spoke often about God. He does not claim to be a Christian, but does believe in God.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I would think that religious biased like the belief in a supernatural jealous deity would not mix well with a profession that require rigorous examination of facts and insight.

    I would think a scientist who still believes in a god that created heaven&earth 6000 years ago can not be seriously considered a scientist can he?

    I guess it is all how tightly or loosly we use the term scientist. Makeing perhaps the taking of some college courses the sole qualifier.

  • 504deist
    504deist

    In the group that answered no would be scientists such as Andrew Flew and Einstein. Flew and Einstein, however, both believe/believed in a god, just not a in a God who is interested in humanity. Thus they were not, by definition, atheists

    as you pointed out, alot of scientist are deist. einstein for sure, didn't know about flew. charles darwin was also a deist lots of people think he's an atheist.

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    Are you just massaging a possible inferiority complex by hoping that highly educated people haven't all turned their back on God? (this isn't meant as an insult--it is an honest question)

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