Still think the Society is not running out of cash? ...

by sir82 56 Replies latest jw friends

  • sir82
    sir82

    ...then check this out!

    (Of course the Society has $billions in real estate, but many have speculated that they are low on cash for day-day operations).

    Unfortunately I don't have a working scanner, but here is a summary of & a few quotations from a BOE letter dated March 1, 2008:

    "For an number of years, an arrangement has been available to congregations to place funds on deposit with the branch office. However, a recent analysis shows that only 10 percent of congregations in the United States are taking advantage of this provision."

    (Some congregations have no-interest checking, or are even charged a fee for checking...others have a savings account, but earn little interest)

    "...At best though, each congregation acting on its own will only achieve a limited return on its excess funds. Therefore, we are encouraging all congregations to give serious thought to participating in the funds-on-deposit arrangement with the branch office."

    "There are significant advantags to participating in this arrangement. First of all, each congregation would only need to operate one checking account for its monthly financial activity. Congregations would not have worry about opening savings or other accounts and becoming involved in investment decisions. Second, by consolidating funds, the branch office is able to earn additional interest at rates above what a congregation normally earns by acting on its own. The funds earned by the branch office would then be available for use in building Kingdom Halls in lands with limited resources or for covering other necessary operating expenses. All of this is accomplished by making full use of funds that have already been contributed but now may be idle, earning little or no interest." (emphasis added)

    (details follow on how to set this up electronically, via www.jw.org)

    (Program is also vailable for operating committee funds, where 2 or more congregations share a Kingdom Hall)

    A couple of pages of Q&A follow. Of most interest is no. 2:

    "Question 2: If we currently have a checking account for our monthly expenses and a savings account for our excess funds, do we have to close the savings account and send those funds to the branch office? What if we prefer to keep the interest for local congregation needs?"

    "Answer: You are to be commended for making wise use of funds dedicated for Kingdom interests. While we leave the decsion to the local body of elders, we encourage all to look beyond local circumstances. There are congregations in other lands where greater material needs than we have here inthe United States. By applying the Scriptural principle found at 2 Corinthinas 8:8-15, we hope to achieve an equalizing for the entire brotherhood. At best, a local congregation will only be able to earn interest at the local rate. The branch office has access to higher rates of interest because of volume and pricing, and by consolidating any excess funds into the funds-on-deposit arrangement, more interest can be generated collectively to benefit the worldwide work." (empahasis added)

    (Other Q&A covers mechanical details, depositing the money, getting it back in case of need, etc.)

    So there you have it. Instead of earning interest at a local bank, deposit your $$$ with the Society, who will then invest it in [whatever], earn interest that the Society keeps for itself, and if you ever need the money, say, years down the road, we'll cheerfully return whatever principal you donated.

    Comments? Mine later, tired of typing!

  • lovelylil
    lovelylil

    This is HUGE! Thanks for sharing that. Lilly

  • troubled mind
    troubled mind

    Wow ....I wonder what the local hall here will do ? The hall is paid for and a local sister has left them a good sum of money over the years , so I am sure their savings account is healthy . My bet is that they will keep it local .

    Don't all halls still have the additional contribution box for the World Wide Work ? Society is getting greedy .....more than usual that is

  • buffalosrfree
    buffalosrfree

    What they will do with the interest is use it to pay off their pedophile cases they settle in or out of court. Just another way of taking money away from the congregations. The congregations need the money for themselves. Things are getting harder and harder in this country and now the society wants the little bit of interest that is generated from accounts to be given to them. What a scam, nothing but give me more, more, and more of your money.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    So now any funds above and beyond what is needed for day to day operations (say, to save for a rainy day) will go into the Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund instead of being allowed to remain where they can access it should it become necessary. Hmm, now they can't save for a rainy day--and Katrina is coming back to rain on them when people start walking out and they cannot get enough donations to finance the mortgages.

  • cognac
    cognac
    taking advantage of this provision

  • dinah
    dinah

    Don't you just love how they spin things around to make it look like it's for the local congregation's good?

    They should just sell their prime real estate and move to Kansas or something. They are sitting on BILLIONS and still taking everything they can get from under educated, under-employed, rank and file witnesses. It's sickening.

  • BabaYaga
    BabaYaga

    Wow. Thanks for this... and bookmarked! Cheers, Baba.

  • Wordly Andre
    Wordly Andre

    Didn't Jim Jones do something like this?

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    For those that may not remember, I'm an accountant.

    My first reaction to this was "so which is it? Are congregations independent units, or is the WTBS one big corporation?" The answer to that question has big ramifications either way. If they are going to put all the money into one big pot (which has certain advantages) they may be breaking down any wall that they're attempting to construct between HQ and the congregations. If they want to keep the congregations as separate entities they're creating a LOT of book work to keep track of which funds are where.

    Since the legal dept was no doubt involved in the writing of this my guess is that they can't keep up the fiction that congregations are independent entities. If problems (read lawsuits) are going to swim upstream no matter what, consolidating funds to handle the problems makes sense.

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