I remember an elder once saying that the only sex acceptable to God was vaginal, missionary position. He even mentioned that having sex with the lights on, with the nakedness causing inappropriate thoughts, beyond the making of another human life, was borderline fornication. I thought he was a fool then, and even more so now. I knew a lot of Witnesses who told me in private conversation that they did several forbidden sex acts as a couple. Forbidden sex, for some that might been positions, but for the Witnesses it meant oral, anal or anything that was involving fetish behavior like S&M or other forms of bondage. Now, as a former Witness, and someone who never thought what happened between consenting adults was the churches business, I wonder if people still see these things as wrong? I know this a touchy subject and some people get offended by simply saying "anal" and knowing what that means and consider it evil, or just plan wrong. Think about this though, in the adult industry of video's, the highest volume category is "anal." Seeing it as evil, sick or just plane wrong. Doesn't not explain why so many people are curious enough to watch others doing it. If your offended by this subject manner, sorry, if possible though explain why it offends you. As I am just wanting a conversation on a former Witness aspect and not trying to offend anyone.
Forbidden sex, we were told it was evil, do we think it's wrong now?
by free2beme 35 Replies latest members adult
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stillajwexelder
well I am not going to discuss in open-forum what me and my wife do - she is a loyal dub - and trust me - we go way beyond missionary - I think most JWs under the age of 40 will go beyond the traditional JW narrow view of what is considered the only position allowed
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stillajwexelder
(Song of Solomon 1:13) 13 As a bag of myrrh my dear one is to me; between my breasts he will spend the night. . .
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Sassy
Although my ex husband and I did particpate in oral sex with is taboo to them.. we didn't go too far out of the boundaries beyond that.. I think most huband dubs if their wife was willing to perform oral sex, would not turn it down.. they just do not talk about it.. because they aren't supposed to be doing it.. the other fetishes though.. i think are probably less done
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stillajwexelder
(Song of Solomon 3:3-4) . . .’ 4 Hardly had I passed on from them until I found the one whom my soul has loved. I grabbed hold of him, and I would not let go of him, until I had brought him into my mother’s house and into the interior room of her that had been pregnant with me.
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serendipity
I think the beliefs run the gamut, depending on how much the JW likes sex and how they were brought up. When they first got married, one of my male relatives, age 21 (now late thirties) told his new wife (age 19) that mutual masturbation was wrong, as were any positions except missionary. She told him he'd need to get a new wife because that wouldn't sexually satisfy her. They were both JWs. She hinted that her JW parents, now 70'ish had a pretty wild sex life, and her Dad was an elder!
I remember reading a WT QFR on oral sex in the late 70's, when I was around 15. I dismissed the reason that oral sex was wrong because gays do it. How illogical, after all gays kiss & hug. Does that make kissing or hugging wrong? Of course not. I think the weak reasoning probably allowed many JWs to pursue this. Whether they felt guilty is another story....
One thing I never recall reading about was WTS condemnation of 'marital aids' aka sex toys. I thought it was odd they didn't tread into that territory. But maybe I missed it.
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Seeker4
Don't ever remember the Society saying or writing that the missionary position was the only one allowed. If any brother said that, I would say it was his opinion - not the WTS's.
They did essentially forbid oral and anal sex. Was married in 1972, a faithful dub. My wife and I occasionally drifted into oral sex, but for many years with considerable guilt. Certainly enjoyed far more than just the missionary position - with no guilt. As an elder I eventually refused to counsel any couple against oral sex if they came to me and asked about it. I agree with the poster above who said that the WTS's reasoning made no sense. Part of the Society's reasoning was that oral sex was essentially an invention of the sex mad 60s. What assholes. When I discovered that there were carvings in India thousands of years old depicting oral sex and lots, lots more, I realized the Society was, as usual, way off base.
With my girlfriend now, it's pretty much sex with no holds barred, and no guilt. The way it should be between two people who love each other.
S4
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