I Like Beef, But This Made Me ILL !

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  • xjw_b12
    xjw_b12

    With the Mad Cow controversy that has been raging on now, a lot of consumers, including myself, are a lot more informed about what what contitutes "animal feed"

    Britain and Europe have banned slaughterhouse waste being used as feed, but Canada has not yet done so.

    What shocked me in the following article was the extent of all slaughterhouse remains that are used, even to the point of weening calves on cattle blood !

    Hold onto your stomachs.

    May make one think again about becoming a vegetarian !

    Ottawa rules out ban on use of slaughterhouse waste in cattle feed DENNIS BUECKERT
    OTTAWA (CP) - Federal officials have ruled out a ban on feeding slaughterhouse waste to cattle even though some government scientists say such a ban is the only way to be sure of stopping mad cow disease.

    Brian Evans, chief veterinarian for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, said a ban would not be based on science and would be impossible to enforce. Britain and other European countries have maintained such a ban for years and it has been under study in Canada. But a panel of foreign experts advised against the idea, said Evans.

    "We proposed it as an option back in June last year in order to look at what the merits were but the international panel in fact said, don't do that."

    Evans said the European approach is based on public perception rather than science.

    Under current Canadian regulations, cattle cannot be fed remains from other ruminants, including sheep and deer which can carry brain-wasting diseases linked to bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE).

    But cattle can still be fed the remains of horses, pigs, chickens and fish. Cattle blood and fat can be used in cattle feed, and many calves are weened on cattle blood. Also, cattle remains can be fed to other animals such as pigs and horses.
    Critics say there is a risk of cross-contamination at feed mills and some scientists suggest cattle blood could be infective. Critics also say there's little to stop unscrupulous farmers from giving rations designed for hogs and chickens to cattle.

    The Canadian Press has learned that last May, in a letter to Assistant Deputy Health Minister Diane Gorman, four Health Canada scientists urged Canada to ban the use of slaughterhouse waste in feed.

    "We consider that the primary cause for the transmission and spread of this disease, animal feeds containing rendered materials of other animals, has been allowed to prevail for much too long," said the letter signed by Cris Basudde, Shiv Chopra, Margaret Haydon and Gerard Lambert.

    "We urge that to contain this disease, a complete and immediate ban must be placed on the use al all such materials in any kind of food and other products for both people and animals."

    The scientists, all veterinarians, have a history of speaking out on public health controversies.

    A number of other scientists and consumers groups have also called for a ban.

    The U.S.-based Consumers Union, which publishes Consumer Reports magazine, has called on Washington to "outlaw the feeding of the remains of any mammal to any animals that humans eat."

    But Evans said evidence for a ban is lacking.

    "It's not science-based to ban everything, to ban fish meal, to ban everything, to ban other species where BSE has never been diagnosed."

    Evans also said it would be impossible to prevent some farmers and mills from using carcasses in feed.

    "If you ban everything, all you're doing is driving underground into an illegal market those materials because unless you are at every rendering plant every day and can follow every load of that material and can see it buried or incinerated, there's no way."

  • maybesbabies
    maybesbabies

    OMG!!! That is so freaking sick!!!! These practices are so widespread and underreported!!! Just might have to go vegetarian after all!!

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    I was watching the news yesterday and a Member of Parliament was on crying the blues about how the poor cattle farmer is suffering. Well it deserves them right. Out of greed for the almighty dollar they have used these unsavory practices to fatten up their beef cattle's and now the "chickens have come to roast" they want the government to bail them out. I am completely put off of eating beef until these AH get there s*** together.

    Will

  • Country Girl
    Country Girl

    In the United States it is AGAINST the law to feed animal remnants to cows, since 1997. It is NOT against the law to feed this concoction to chickens, pigs, goats or sheep. In most cities, all "put down" animals, road kill, and animals that have died of disease and PUT DOWN, are taken to the rendering plant. They are ground up, boiled up, and dried. The resulting product is something that looks like dried brown sugar. This product ends up as "filler" in pet foods, chicken, goat and pork foods. The press should be asking these questions. You don't believe it happens?

    I can tell you the truth. My horse died in 1999. For us to have her buried on our property would have costs thousands of dollars for a front loader to come in and dig a grave for her. It was easer to call a haul off service to take her to the rendering plant. At the rendering plant, her body was ground up and boiled, and her body was fueled out for dog food, or cat food, or whatever. The BAD thing was: we gave our horse wormer. This is a poison and on the outside of the wormer package that says if this horse was to be used for "edible consumption" that it wouldn't be good to do that. So... we let the horse go to the rendering plant.. and it could have been fed to chickens or pork.. and who knows?

    I just want to give people another option. Please don't eat meat or products UNTIL it's clear that the meant is NOT coming from bad sources.

    CG

  • caligirl
    caligirl

    The news here said the other day that there are several health food stores that sell vegetable fed beef, which eliminates the worry of them having been fed all the nasty stuff. . Her in CA, they said Henry's and Trader Joe's has that. I am sure other health food chains offer it as well.

  • Country Girl
    Country Girl

    Another thing I want to say: Chickens are *not* total vegetarians. I've seen my chickens eat their own kids, their own eggs, even eat each other. I have my chickens locked up in a HUGE complex, and there's only five of them, and they still are cannibals. I *do not* let them out because of the coyotes, and they eat any eggs they lay. The are cannibals. I am *sure* they would eat up with vigor any chicken that died. I don't feed MY chickens anything other than corn. ugh.. can't do that.. but I can't kill em either...

    CG

  • shera
    shera

    Hmmm,I was thinking of having steak for supper tonite......

  • RunningMan
    RunningMan

    There is a huge overreation to mad cow disease. I saw this article this morning that puts things into a rather interesting perspective.

    With regard to animal waste, having come from a rural background, I can attest to the fact that most cattle are strictly grain fed. You really don't have anything to worry about. Beef is safer than either pork or chicken. And, as the article points out, taking a bath or walking downstairs are both far more dangerous than vCJD.

    MAD COWS AND IRRATIONAL HYSTERICS
    Pseudoscience on the Farm

    By Sandy Szwarc, RN, BSN, CCP ([email protected])

    Alfred Hitchcock knew a shadowy figure was far more terrifying than a
    well-lit known villain. Of late, there's been an explosion of headlines and juicy
    stories about the shadowy figure of mad cow disease that capture attention with
    sensationalized "what-if?" scares of hidden dangers lurking in our beef. We
    can be assured of one thing when it comes to the safety of our food: hysteria
    will be inversely proportional to actual risks.

    Cows Aren't People

    Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), or "mad cow disease," is a fatal
    disease in aged cows, according to the U.S. Dept of Agriculture (USDA) Animal and
    Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS).[1] Its victims are usually 3 to 6
    years old--that's old for cows, as those raised for meat are slaughtered young
    (under 24 months). BSE is one of several neurological degenerative diseases, like
    chronic wasting disease that occurs sporadically and spontaneously in wild
    ruminant animals. (Non-ruminant animals such as pigs and poultry don't get the
    diseases).[2] Scrapies, the form endemic in sheep and goats, has been identified
    in Europe since the mid-18th century.[3]

    Despite news reports quick to place blame, scientific evidence is far from
    conclusive. Since BSE was first identified in 1986 on a dairy farm in England,
    the cause has not been pinpointed, according to the U. S. Department of Health
    and Human Services (HHS).

    What is known is that BSE is not contagious and cows cannot give it to each
    other or other animals just by living together. Nor can they give it to people--
    there's never been a single case. Despite that fact, 4.5 million innocent
    healthy cows were destroyed in England during the peak of their mad cow hysteria,
    devastating beef and dairy farms and creating an environmental disaster in
    disposing of all those dead carcasses. Hopefully reason will prevail, as it has
    in Canada since their BSE case last May, and the unnecessary mass slaughter of
    healthy animals won't be repeated.

    If other cows with BSE are discovered in North America, as they likely will,
    it doesn't mean safeguards have failed or that an epidemic is upon us. Unlike
    Englands despairing bout, the few cases of BSE in Canada, Japan, Spain, Italy
    and scattered around the globe have remained contained and harmless.
    England has had 90% of recorded BSE cases. Scientists believe it may have
    spread there because of an unusual scenario that's since been corrected,
    dramatically curtailing the number of cases. Learning from Britain's experience,
    precautions put in place elsewhere make the likelihood of a similar spread remote.[4]

    Most of Englands animal feed protein since the 1970s had been derived from
    bone-and-meat from ruminant animals which, it's theorized, may have caused an
    unnatural spread of the disease agent, possibly from scrapie-infected sheep,
    into feed, or that it precipitated a deformity of prions (a natural protein in
    brains). The risk of scrapie contamination was higher in England, with 3.4
    sheep per cattle compared to 0.08 here, but is unlikely here because the U.S. has
    had a scrapie control program in place since 1952. Unlike England, we've also
    always primarily used plant-based protein, such as corn and soybean, for
    cattle feed.

    While the prion theory of transmission has not been firmly established by
    scientists, according to the USDA the risk materials have been determined to be
    the skull, brain, trigeminal ganglia, eyes, vertebral column, spinal cord and
    dorsal root ganglia of cattle over 30 months of age and the small intestine of
    all cattle.[5] Since 1997 the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has prohibited
    the use of most mammalian protein (which includes risk material) in animal
    feeds given to all ruminants--making conventional and organic beef equally safe.[6]

    The American Feed Industry Association, which represents nearly 700 feed
    companies, called for the complete removal of ruminant-derived meat-and-bone meal
    from facilities that make cattle feed to prevent even accidental mixing of feed
    types, and established independent third-party certification programs to
    verify compliance. The National Renderers Association has followed suit.

    As an added precaution, the U.S. has banned the importation of any ruminant
    animal or product from any country even suspected of being at risk for BSE,
    according to the U.S. HHS, FDA, Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition
    (CFSAN).[7] No beef has been imported into the U.S. from England since 1985.
    According to the National Cattlemen's Association, a proactive, vigilant surveillance
    system also tests all cows older than 30 months or that appear sick or
    nonambulatory, and removes high risk materials, before processing. While some are
    calling for the testing of every cow to reassure consumers, that would
    conservatively cost hundreds of millions of dollars, crippling the low-margin $50
    billion beef industry without giving much additional safety. As Dr. Ron DeHaven,
    the Agriculture Department's chief veterinarian noted, the current surveillance
    system is designed to detect the disease if it exists in one in a million
    animals. The American Meat Institute (AMI) adds that existing BSE surveillance
    already exceeds international standards by more than 40 times.[8]

    More than five years ago the AMI also called upon its members to discontinue
    the use of air injection stunning, to avoid the possible contamination of meat
    with brain tissue. According to J. Patrick Boyle, AMI President and CEO, to
    their knowledge no such equipment is in use in American processing plants, nor
    is mechanically separated beef produced in the U.S., contrary to many fears
    being raised by activists.

    Finally, to bolster consumer confidence in beef safety, the last week of 2003
    the USDA announced new measures to protect cattle herds that went well beyond
    international standards. In addition to making mandatory changes in
    processing and increasing BSE surveillance, they called for the establishment of a
    national animal ID system. The USDA will also require that beef carcasses and beef
    products from animals undergoing BSE testing be withheld from the food
    supply, pending test results. This is a prudent measure, according to the AMI, and
    is already routine practice at many of the nation's beef plants. All
    nonambulatory livestock have also been banned from the food supply, although the AMI
    notes that the majority, "if inspected and passed by a USDA veterinarian are safe
    for human consumption."

    Human Mad Cow?

    Cows with BSE act like animals and people with other spongiform
    encephalopathies--they lose muscle control, waste away and die. According to the World
    Health Organization, Creutzfeld-Jacobs Disease (CJD), one of the human spongiform
    encephalopathies, occurs spontaneously in about one in a million people.[9] It
    appears to have a genetic basis 5 to 10% of the time, with a small percentage
    iatrogenic. According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the
    APHIS, CJD is unrelated to mad cow, as evidenced by the fact it occurs in England
    about the same frequency as the rest of the world. And according to Konrad
    Eugster, MD, executive director of the Texas Veterinary Medical Diagnostic
    Laboratory at Texas A&M University, CJD has been around a long, long time long
    before mad cow ever hit the news.[10]

    In light of British panic over mad cow, their Spongiform Encephalopathy
    Advisory Committee has been closely studying and monitoring these diseases since
    1990. On March 20, 1996, it noted 10 cases of human CJD that occurred in younger
    people and lasted longer than typically seen. Besides the fact that most
    variant-CJD victims had eaten beef at some time--although no one had eaten brain
    tissue and one of the ten patients had been a vegetarian since 1991--they could
    find no scientific evidence linking BSE and vCJD. While a few studies
    subsequently published in Nature reported an association between vCJD and BSE, it is
    far from conclusive and other researchers question the theory.

    That hasn't stopped vCJD from being labeled the human form of mad cow. A
    popular orthodoxy has evolved, fueled by media frenzy, that meat contaminated with
    the brain prions of mad cows could give people the disease. "It's all been
    much ado about nothing," said Scott C. Ratzan, director of the Emerson
    College/Tufts University School of Medicine Program in Health Communications and
    editor of the Journal of Health Communications.[11] "Based on available scientific
    evidence, we can be virtually certain that mad cow disease poses no threat to
    humans."

    No one has ever been able to establish that any vCJD victim has ever eaten
    beef from a diseased animal or that infected prions can cross the species
    barrier and cause disease in humans. In addition, there is no documented increase in
    cases in cultures where brains are a favorite dish. And, while the vCJD cases
    shortly after England's BSE outbreak are pointed to as proof of an
    association, it's hard to ignore that the already small numbers of cases are dropping,
    making groundless claims that the worst of the epidemic is yet to come. Other
    exposures don't hold up, either, as there's no higher incidence among farmers,
    slaughterhouse workers, butchers or others in greater contact with BSE or
    animal products.

    Rather than being some exotic new prion disease, Alan Ebringer, a professor
    of immunology at King's College, London, believes vCJD is the result of the body's own immune response to a bacteria called Acinetobacter, making it another
    autoimmune disease with mechanisms already well-understood by science.[12]
    George A. Venter, a public health consultant from Hamilton, Scotland, noted in an
    October issue of the British Medical Journal, that the evidence linking BSE and
    vCJD is weak.[13] Even when mice with the human prion protein were injected
    with BSE prions, they didn't get the disease.

    The first case of CJD, diagnosed in the 1920s, was in a 23 year old, casting
    doubt that vCJD is a new disease in younger people at all, but more a question
    of degree and better ascertainment. Britain's CJD Surveillance Unit noted
    that widespread concern about the potential infectiousness of BSE resulted in a
    qualitative change in the type of patients referred to their unit. Clinical
    features, spread and pathology of vCJD are more similar to Kuru, a disease found
    in Papua New Guinea, he found. Venters also noted the number of cases are much
    rarer than would be expected from a food source, making vCJD the "epidemic that never was."

    What Are Our Chances of Contracting vCJD?

    While scientists sort through the data, and government and industry take
    every precaution warranted by available evidence, the bottom-line message for
    consumers is this. Regardless of the cause, since first identified in the 1980s
    CSFAN reports that as of May 2003 there have been in total approximately 139
    cases of vCJD worldwide, with only 1 case in 2000. Diarrhea diseases, in
    contrast, cause 2.2 million deaths every year.

    Those fretting about mad cow probably think nothing of taking a bath (which
    kills 320 Americans a year), walking downstairs (which kills 1,421 Americans
    annually), or driving a car (which kills 42,000 Americans a year). By contrast,
    the odds of getting vCJD from eating British beef, said the CDC, is about one
    in ten billion.[14] By comparison, NASA's Near-Earth Object Search Report
    determines there's a 1 in 400,000 chance of a major asteroid striking the earth.[15]
    That translates to 99.99975% chance an asteroid will miss the Earth, but doesn't stop some from fearing Armageddon.

    If it's biologically implausible for humans to get mad cow from beef, how did
    it become conventional wisdom? "Because you don't let the facts get in the
    way of a good story," said Venters.[16] "The mad cow disease story would be a
    non-story in the U.S. if it were not for the propaganda efforts of vegetarian
    groups," said the National Council Against Health Fraud. Such groups "have
    seized upon the opportunity to frighten people into behaving in ways they find
    ideologically delightful."[17]

    The Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), renowned for its food
    fears, warned in a Nutrition Action Healthletter article "What Could Happen
    Here?" that "vCJD spares no one" and that the connection between it and mad cow
    prions is "spreading fear and panic across the globe." In a Dec. 24th New
    York Times article, Caroline Smith DeWaal, CSPI's director of food safety, wasted
    no time telling consumers they should avoid eating any ground meat, or pizza,
    tacos, hot dogs, salami, bologna and other foods that could contain ground
    meat, or even T-bones that could have been cut from close to the spinal
    column.[18] They neglected to report that no infective agent or prion has ever been
    found in muscle tissue (meat) or milk, and that the brain, spinal column and lower
    intestine of the infected cow had been removed and sent to the USDA's
    National Veterinary Services Laboratories in Ames, Iowa--meaning no risk material ever
    entered the food supply.

    But what if every fear being theorized by the fear mongerers[19] became a
    reality? To find out, the USDA commissioned a study by the Harvard Center for Risk
    Analysis to study worst case scenarios. Their report found that should BSE be
    introduced in the U.S., measures taken during the last five years by the
    government and industry, while not foolproof, will arrest and eradicate the
    disease.[20] The risk isn't zero, said David Ropeik, director of risk communication,
    but it's as close to zero as you can get.

    About the author: Sandy Szwarc, RN, BSN, CCP is a food and health writer and
    has been managing editor of national food and restaurant publications. She is
    also a culinary professional and cookbook author; and a registered nurse with
    over twenty years in critical-care nursing, emergency triage, and outreach
    education with a focus on nutrition and preventative health. She is a member of
    the National Council Against Health Fraud, American Council on Science and
    Health, American Dietetic Association--Food and Culinary Professionals, and
    International Association of Culinary Professionals. A regular contributor to Tech
    Central Station, she is increasingly involved in debunking junk science as it
    pertains to food and health.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    Eat Mid West prime rib -- we feed them nothing but corn around here!

  • Eyebrow2
    Eyebrow2

    I thought cattle were herbavores (forgive the spelling)

    that is kind of nasty!

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