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  When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed? Part Two

  by Maze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  an excellent presentation of secular archeology supporting jerusalem's destruction in 607 b.c.e:.

  http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20111101.pdf.

  when was ancient jerusalem destroyed?.

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  Maze

  An excellent presentation of secular archeology supporting Jerusalem's destruction in 607 B.C.E:
  
  http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_E_20111101.pdf
  
  When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed?
  
  PART TWO: WHAT THE CLAY DOCUMENTS REALLY SHOW
  
  Introduction:
  
  The Bible says that the Jewish captives were to be exiled in Babylon “until the seventy years were completed in fulfillment of the word of the Lord spoken by Jeremiah.”

  When were they released? In “the first [regnal] year of Cyrus king of Persia.” (2 Chronicles 36:21, 22, New International Version) Biblical and secular history agree that this exile in Babylon ended after Cyrus conquered Babylon and freed the Jews, who returned to Jerusalem in 537 B.C.E. Since the Bible explicitly says that the exile lasted for 70 years, it must have begun in 607 B.C.E.
  
  However, most scholars date the destruction of Jerusalem at 587 B.C.E. This allows for only a 50-year exile. Why do they conclude that? They base their calculations on ancient cuneiform documents that provide details about Nebuchadnezzar II and his successors. Many of these documents were written by men who lived during or close to the time of Jerusalem’s destruction. But just how sound are the calculations that point to the date 587 B.C.E.? What do these documents really show?
  
  To answer those questions, consider three types of documents that scholars often rely on: (1) The Babylonian chronicles, (2) business tablets, and (3) astronomical tablets.
  
  Conclusion:
  
  Why Trust the Bible?
  
  At present, the majority of secular historians believe that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 B.C.E. However, the Bible writers Jeremiah and Daniel clearly state that the Jews were in exile for 70 years, not 50 years. (Jeremiah 25:1, 2, 11; 29:10; Daniel 9:2) Those statements strongly indicate that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C.E. As the above evidence shows, that conclusion has some secular support.
  
  Secular experts have repeatedly questioned the Bible’s accuracy. Yet, when more evidence is uncovered, the Bible record has time and again been vindicated. Those who trust the Bible have good reason to do so. They base their opinion on proof that the Bible is historically, scientifically, and prophetically accurate. That evidence leads them to believe the Bible’s claim that it is the inspired Word of God. (2 Timothy 3:16) Why not investigate the evidence for yourself ? You may well come to the same conclusion.
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  My Last Thread

  by Maze in

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  my interest in posting here has deadened lately.

  this will likely be my last thread.

  initially i participated here because i was interested in sharpening my perception against opposing points of view.

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  Maze

  My interest in posting here has deadened lately. This will likely be my last thread. Initially I participated here because I was interested in sharpening my perception against opposing points of view. Jehovah really doesn't recommend the use of channels such as this for such purposes.
  
  w93 10/1 p. 19 par. 15 “Search Through Me, O God”
  
  Regarding them, the psalmist said: “Do I not hate those who are intensely hating you, O Jehovah, and do I not feel a loathing for those revolting against you? With a complete hatred I do hate them. They have become to me real enemies.” (Psalm 139:21, 22) It was because they intensely hated Jehovah that David looked on them with abhorrence. Apostates are included among those who show their hatred of Jehovah by revolting against him. Apostasy is, in reality, a rebellion against Jehovah. Some apostates profess to know and serve God, but they reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible, but they reject Jehovah’s organization and actively try to hinder its work. When they deliberately choose such badness after knowing what is right, when the bad becomes so ingrained that it is an inseparable part of their makeup, then a Christian must hate (in the Biblical sense of the word) those who have inseparably attached themselves to the badness. True Christians share Jehovah’s feelings toward such apostates; they are not curious about apostate ideas. On the contrary, they “feel a loathing” toward those who have made themselves God’s enemies, but they leave it to Jehovah to execute vengeance.—Job 13:16; Romans 12:19; 2 John 9, 10.
  
  The reason the faithful and discreet slave made these statements is because apostates have constituted themselves as God's enemies with blood on their hands and false concepts ingrained in their hearts and thinking.
  
  For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment and [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition. Any man that has disregarded the law of Moses dies without compassion, upon the testimony of two or three. Of how much more severe a punishment, do you think, will the man be counted worthy who has trampled upon the Son of God and who has esteemed as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and who has outraged the spirit of undeserved kindness with contempt? For we know him that said: “Vengeance is mine; I will recompense”; and again: “Jehovah will judge his people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of [the] living God. Hebrews 10:26-31
  
  This is why virtually no Jehovah's Witnesses participate on the largest network advertised as a discussion forum for Jehovah's Witnesses.

  As with other Christians, Jehovah's holy spirit gradually helped me to recover from some problems on the personal side.

  g96 12/8 p. 11 The Road to Recovery

  John and Hiroshi took part in rehabilitation programs. Good diet and exercise strengthened their hearts, so that both resumed working. And they attributed their mental and emotional recovery to the sustaining power of God’s spirit.

  That's why I've never been swayed by any ideas from opposers. Jehovah will display compelling evidence for his existence to those that give him the opportunity. It seems my loyalty should be to God without the added complications of bad association.
  
  Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits. 1 Corinthians 15:33

  So, then, because we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also put off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, as we look intently at the Chief Agent and Perfecter of our faith, Jesus. Hebrews 12:1-2
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  What if you admitted you don't mind being destroyed @ Armaggedon?

  by Knowsnothing in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  isn't that pretty much the end of a conversation with a jw?.

  honestly, now that i think about it, what is the difference between judgment day(armaggedon) and death?.

  just curious to see how my friends and relatives would react if i responded that way... .

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  I knew someone who admitted he'd be destroyed at Armageddon at the age of 16. He was into skateboarding and thrash metal and flat out admitted he wasn't interested in serving Jehovah at the time. He said he'd probably “die a skater.” He didn't deny the Truth and he believed in Jehovah.
  
  It seems the people that will be destroyed are those that overtly deny the Truth and reject Jehovah. No one here is in agreement with the reality of God. It's just mass confusion from a bunch of cowards.
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  Religious Reform

  by Maze in

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  as a bible based organization, how do feel jehovah's organization should be reformed?

  the answer is quite simple in christendoms churches:.

  1. reject false doctrines like the trinity and 'all christians go to heaven' and use of images in worship.. .

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  Maze, ok. We heard you the first time. We are disgusting. Duly noted.

  Are you going to tell me I am going to get the shit kicked out of me by two seraphs instead of one? Will it matter?

  Trashy and disgusting = me.

  Beautiful and forgiven = you.

  Ok. Carry on.

  This has more to do with the people that keep making insinuating comments about my friends even though they know nothing about me or my social environment.
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  Religious Reform

  by Maze in

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  as a bible based organization, how do feel jehovah's organization should be reformed?

  the answer is quite simple in christendoms churches:.

  1. reject false doctrines like the trinity and 'all christians go to heaven' and use of images in worship.. .

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  Maze

  75 percent of my family are Jehovah's Witnesses Crisis of Conscience. Five elders and numerous baptized publishers. I don't have “apostate connections...” I don't need them. I looked at how trashy the people looked in those Apostafests & Get-togethers photos appeared. Thanx, but no thanx. Even if I devieated from the Truth I'd find friends elsewhere.
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  Religious Reform

  by Maze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a bible based organization, how do feel jehovah's organization should be reformed?

  the answer is quite simple in christendoms churches:.

  1. reject false doctrines like the trinity and 'all christians go to heaven' and use of images in worship.. .

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  Maze

  So Maze, you still want to be a JW, right?

  Yes. Up to and into the new system.
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  Religious Reform

  by Maze in

  1. watchtower
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  as a bible based organization, how do feel jehovah's organization should be reformed?

  the answer is quite simple in christendoms churches:.

  1. reject false doctrines like the trinity and 'all christians go to heaven' and use of images in worship.. .

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  Maze

  I didn't get you removed---you did that yourself and it wasn't for "defending your religious beliefs". I believe part of the reason your troll "Alice.in.Wonderland" got booted is because of the PM you sent me asking me if I "s*cked my father's d*ck" and then calling me a "f**king c**t". All the while, you're quoted scriptures on the board trying to pawn yourself off as a Witness.

  Yep, I told you to "f*ck off" after you made a disgusting derogatory comment about my JW brother-in-law that died. The fact that you would insult a Jehovah's Witness who died due to the blood doctrine, shows just how screwed in the head you truly are. Then again, no one on here expects anything else from you so I guess it shouldn't come as any surprise.

  BTW, shouldn't you get getting all dolled up for the ASSembly that all good Dubs are attending? Is your imaginary hubby taking you in an imaginary car so you can socialize with your imaginary friends? Inquiring minds want to know!

  If only you're brother in law who died faithfully could see you now. He would be utterly disgusted and agree with me when I say YOU ARE SICK for all your warped viewpoints wouldn't he? Is it your husband's or ex-husband's brother or sister's husband? And by the way, you don't qualify as his “sister.” You stopped being a family member when you turned your back on the Truth.
  
  And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.” Matthew 12:49-50
  
  I don't care what I've told you nor will I ever. You can type up all the degrading trash and hate speech you can conjure in your warped psyche imagining I'm in anyway effected by it. We all have the capacity for hatred so it doesn't make you special.
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  Religious Reform

  by Maze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a bible based organization, how do feel jehovah's organization should be reformed?

  the answer is quite simple in christendoms churches:.

  1. reject false doctrines like the trinity and 'all christians go to heaven' and use of images in worship.. .

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  Maze

  Perhaps this will help you understand how this board works, Alice:

  This is also a cop out for an intelligent response to something legitimate. You post more “bullsh-t” than pictures. I'd rather get image macros from you. OUTLAW posts image macros and idiot bullsh-t...
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  Religious Reform

  by Maze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a bible based organization, how do feel jehovah's organization should be reformed?

  the answer is quite simple in christendoms churches:.

  1. reject false doctrines like the trinity and 'all christians go to heaven' and use of images in worship.. .

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  Maze

  I guess it's too much to hope that you'll just go away from here eh? Let's see: you hate us on this board, you've been kicked off several times for trolling, you've been exposed over and over again as someone with severe mental/emotional problems, you're also a pathological liar.......but you just keep on comin' back for more.

  Yawn.........I'm off ta bed. Unlike Maze, I'm not living off the government.....I gotta work tomorrow.

  Happy trails dipstick!

  Why was I removed? You told me to “F-ck off” for defending my religion and I told you what I had to tell you. The difference between me and you is I don't go squealing to the moderators when I get my nose out of joint. The only people I hate here are those that assail me with personal attacks. In all honesty, there's only a few that do that.
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  Religious Reform

  by Maze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as a bible based organization, how do feel jehovah's organization should be reformed?

  the answer is quite simple in christendoms churches:.

  1. reject false doctrines like the trinity and 'all christians go to heaven' and use of images in worship.. .

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  Maze

  AAwwww.......no Maze, I'm not DF'd. Just did The Fade.

  I said a few things to avoid nasty trolls and yet they proliferate here like fungus.

  OK so you came on the board trolling, lying your face off, in order to avoid "nasty trolls"? Ya, that's about the kind of brain-dead answer I'd expect from you. Doesn't the bible condemn liars? What a buffoon.........Say hi to your imaginary hubby for me!

  So you say. You could be lying. From your response, it sounds like you believe being disfellowshipped is the Hall of Shame and you're sooooo much better than your disfellowshipped apostate buddies...