KeepinSane

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  Coming up on one year on the forum..what I've learned/Thanks

  by dawg in

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  to the forum, please read even if its long...i want to thank you all.

  i remember when i first started posting here, almost one year ago...i had just written letters to evey jw i could find telling them what a bunch of bs the jws were.... most wanted to kill me, including my dad, who called me a fornicator, and called all my friends wanting to know what drug i was on.... i learned that jws will always try and find wrongs in the character who's showing the inconsistiancies, they never will listen to what you're saying just attack your character.

  but there have been a few that i've reached; some have even taken a stand with me.. i also learned that people have different circumstances, that i shouldn't judge those that don't take a stand.

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  KeepinSane

  Dawg,

  You rock!!! You have contributed every bit as much as anyone here, always enjoyed your direct approach!

  Jason, (the old Done4Good that lost his logon stuff a few months ago...)
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  What is your current status with the Watchtower Society and Congregation?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  i'm a baptized member considered ''inactive.

  '' i don't hand in ''service reports'',attend maybe 3 meetings a month,ain't signed up for the ministry school and will never attend any convention or the ''book study.

  '' always make the ''memorial.

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  KeepinSane

  Faded out three years ago...DA'd last year.

  Jason
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  Any introverts out there?

  by wings in

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  i took freedom frogs personality test yesterday, three times.

  my lowest introverted score was 67. i think that borders on recluse.

  are you comfortable with that part of yourself?.

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  KeepinSane

  Definately introvert here.

  This was always something that really annoyed me with the dubs, btw...It wasn't OK to be an introvert as a jw. I managed to fake it for too many years, and yes, it contributed to the "burn out" I experienced as a jw.

  Jason

  Of the Glad to "Just Be Me" class.
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  Now That We're Outta The "Organization" Can We Be Who We Really Are?

  by minimus in

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  when you come here, are you comfortable to be who you really are?

  can you express how you truly feel?

  i know that not everyone may "understand" who we are, but being out of the organization and its myriads of rules, we should be able to be comfortable.

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  KeepinSane

  I believe I was already "becomming" that person before I left...

  Leaving was just the next step in that process. When I realized that I could not be "who I was" while remaining a jw, the fading process started, until I finally left. Every day, I make progress in being that person.

  Jason
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  What is the motives of the GB?

  by sweet pea in

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  ok guys and dolls, want your input here.

  a friend of mine has a question...... .

  "the brothers in bethel/headquarters seem very sincere and loving - what possible motive would they have in trying to deceive people, what do they get out of it?

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  KeepinSane

  Sincere, yes, for the most part...loving??? I'm not too convinced about that one.

  Basically my take on this has always been that they are where all of the "delusion" that exists in the Borg comes from. They themselves "believe", so it's the nature of the beast for them to "protect" their beliefs to keep their followers. It's a self-perpetuating system, so it's hard to break the cycle.

  -Power and control do play into it...they are just not the primary factors here.

  Jason
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  Own up time...

  by Chalam in

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  well it looks like this site is a real melting pot, a broad spectrum of views and beliefs.

  for sure there are many disaffected ex jws.

  so in as few words as possible, preferably not more than one sentence, how would you describe yourself spiritually?

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  A Cristian Skeptic...
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  Are Any Here Afraid of "Getting Caught" Doing Something "Wrong" By a JW?

  by minimus in

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  do you still look over your shoulder to see if some jw might "report" you to the elders for doing something inappropriate by witness standards??

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  Not in the least. A couple of days ago I met up with another ex-jw buddy of mine, and he invited me and my current wife, (never a jw), to his parents house for dinner. His parent's hall happens to be the hall I da'd out of last year. Goatee, toasting and all...

  (Didn't bring the cigars, though...)

  j
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  What Is The Jehovah's Witness Religion To You?

  by minimus in

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  to me, the witness religion is either a hardcore group of watchtower dogma believing "kool-aid" drinkers or a group of non-believing, mentally and spiritually lazy zombies who value their friendships and family over principle.. there are those in the middle who i believe are too fragile to even want to think about reality..

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  Very few are of that "hardcore" number anymore. Few know doctrine even well enough to be that way these days. An ever increasing number are just going through the motions, never really giving things much thought until something rocks their world. This is sad, and probably my biggest issue with the dubs as a whole. The management has managed to dummy things down so much, that the present crop of dubs really can't care much about things like doctrine anymore.

  Basically, it's a "Shut up and do what we tell you to do until Armegeddon comes" kind of mentality that comes out of Brooklyn these days. The r&f are too tired, and beat-up to even fake enjoyment.

  j
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  WTS response to 9/11

  by Robert7 in

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  i'm sure this has been discussed in length, but i'm a newbie :).

  one item that really shocked me, back when i believed this was 'the truth' was the lack of response to the 9/11 attacks.

  as all of us, we were really shocked and really were looking for comfort at the meeting (school/service meeting).

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  Do you think that perhaps you notice it more because it's pertinent to you? I mean, I know the WTS is concerned primarily with how many Witnesses died, but what makes you think that 9/11 is so terrible?

  They didn't talk much about the 250,000 killed by the tsunami of 2004 either. It's not that they won't talk about the Trade Centre, they generally have little feeling for world events in general unless they seem to back up prophecy. Jesus didn't talk about suicide bombers or tidal waves in the Sermon on the Mount, so they're not fussed.

  Sorry Faundy, but there is a difference here....

  The 9/11 attacks were performed by people to deliberately hurt people. The 2004 tsunami was natural disater, just like any other, except for the fact that it was much larger. 9/11 also happened in the WTS backyard, (just over the bridge...).

  The cold response received from the WTS has much to do with why I am no longer sitting in the KH.

  Jason
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  Were you able to say "Merry Christmas" ?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  this is my first christmas following the complete fade, but i have to maintain the fade.. hence, i have been uncomfortable with saying "merry christmas.

  " the closest i have .

  come this year is "same to you" and "enjoy your holiday.".

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  KeepinSane

  I'm on year number three...It gets easier with each passing year.

  j