Posts by carla
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What is your understanding of a christian Minister of God ?
by smiddy inas i understand it ,a christian minister of god is someone who goes to school gets the opportunity to further their education at a higher level ,then studies greek hebrew , latin , and what is available in ancient manuscripts , and demonstrates they have a comprehension of all these issues.....and of course they would need to get a pass on these subjects.. i think this would be the minimum standard required in the mainstream christian churches ,greek orthodox , catholic, all branches ,church of england ,and most of the mainstream protestant religions.
then we come to jehovah `s witnesses , none of the above applies to them , all they have is , they have been baptized by water immersion into their religion with none of the above qualifications.. and this includes minors , some as young as ten , possibly even younger in some situations who are classed as ministers of god simply by their baptism by water immersion.. they are also on record as saying higher education is a waste of time.why ?
because the end is just around the corner , a phrase that has been repeated and repeated since the year 1914 till now.. what young child could possibly hold their own with a discussion in theology or even comprehend the complexities of christianity with their counterparts.?.
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carla
I agree with all you have said but would also like to point out that most ministers with traditional education (4+ years, etc..) are trained in counseling as well. This most often includes marriage & family counseling but may also include other specialties as well. No jw is trained in anything other than parroting the wt's & awake's. -
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The Reason Why Jehovah's Witnesses Will Never Prosper Is The Children
by minimus ini believe that the religion will remain stagnant due to their achilles heel, the kids, the children, that next generation.. most of them really don't wa t to be in the religion.
the parents may have tried everything within their power to make the kids love jehovah but we all know you can't force someone to love you and you can't make a grown person stay in a relationship or situation if they really don't want to be there..
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carla
The parents will continue to be that carrot for the kids unfortunately for many.
Then again some of the parents will continue to attempt to bribe kids to stay. We had a case here that I remember, a young lady wanted out but the parents were bribing her with a new car she really wanted, don't remember her final choice and she has not posted for some time if memory serves.
I know a guy who's relatives tried to ply him with new appliances to join up! hmmm, new appliances or freedom? he chose freedom and that was pre-internet days. He is happy guy and those relatives that warned of the imminent end are long dead.
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Question for non-jw spouses
by FreeGirl2006 ina dub i know was recently reinstated.
she was dfd for leaving her hubby for another man.
she married the other man and then began the process of being reinstated.
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carla
Governor, perhaps you are better (wo)man than I! There are some things I just will not do for anybody, not for love or money and supporting this evil cult in anyway is one of them. I would not, could not stand by and watch my mate be a willing victim to such abuse. For one; I would not be able to keep my tongue in check and secondly watching it first hand would cause me to lose all respect for my jw who willingly submitted himself to such abuse. It would be like asking me to watch him get the crap beat out of him all the while he is asking for more and all of them saying it is out of love. Ask an abused woman which is worse? the physical abuse or the mental abuse? often they will say the mental abuse because at least the physical ends (for that day) and the bruises and broken bones heal. The emotional hits are the hard ones to heal and stay with you a lifetime.
As for a social outlet, there are many opportunities outside of the cult for that.
I will support my mate or family members in endeavors that will make them a better person, benefit them or family in some way or is just plain harmless fun. The cult is none of those things.
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Official List of Helpers to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses
by jwleaks inofficial current list as published by watchtower >>> here.
official list of governing body of jehovahs witnesses helpers.
list of governing body of jehovahs witnesses helpers.
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carla
Why do they publish these names? Why don't they publish the names of their "translating" committee for their perverted bible? -
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Young Girl Exposes Jehovah's Witnesses at school video goes VIRAL last 2 days 273,000 views
by Watchtower-Free inoriginal thread here.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/291080001/brave-high-school-student-exposes-abuse-corruption-within-jehovahs-witnesses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdvt_gyq-ls.
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carla
She did a great job! Wouldn't it be great if it went viral enough for her to get a few bucks to start her college fund? How ironic would that be?! -
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The Watch Tower Society reveals itself
by Doug Mason inover time, the watch tower society has completely changed many of its beliefs.
for example, until recently, the wts said that the emblems of the memorial represented the church, the 144,000, that the emblems did not symbolize jesus.. at times, the wts changes the name of a belief while it continues the teaching, for example, the wts used to say that jesus and the 144,000 together were the "the christ".
today, the wts denies this teaching but the name "anointed" means "christ".. do you want to see what the watch tower reveals about these things and more?
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carla
Thank you Doug! -
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Is it possible to use this thread to compile watchtowers Armageddon illustrations
by jambon1 ini was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.
i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.
maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..
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carla
Thanks to all for posting these, quite a collection of psychological blackmail. -
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The JW religion has just cost me my marriage & my family life
by jambon1 inafter leaving the organisation 10 years ago i fought with everything i had to stay in my marriage and with my three children.
after a tumultuous number of years trying to maintain a happy family life while living in a divided home, it's finally over.
the religion is single handedly responsible for destroying my marriage and my family.
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carla
I'm so sorry jambon, in my thoughts, carla -
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New Light! People CAN now be saved AFTER the Tribulation begins!
by FusionTheism infor decades, i remember the society, publications, and elders saying that once the great tribulation begins, it is too late to repent or be saved.
they said the "door of the ark will have been closed.".
now, however, look at the brand-new clarified understanding / new light on this from jw.org, below.. they are still saying that the majority of worldly people will not be saved, but they are now saying it is possible.. the simplified july study watchtower says this:.
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carla
Funny thing is that I don't know of any Christians that consider jw's as a 'Christian' religion. They don't get why the wt makes such statements like when the wt calls itself 'true Christianity'. I usually get, "so why do they think they are Christian?" hell if I know. Maybe if they say it often enough it will stick and they will get a break from society and not be considered a weirdo cult? -
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Tsarnaev guilty - should he get death or not?
by Simon ini think he probably will (it is the us after all) but i hope he doesn't.
he caused incredible pain and suffering to men, women and children who had never done anything to him.
many died in unimaginable agony, others are disabled for life.
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carla
I don't object the money spent putting some of these animals away for a lifetime and even the lesser crimes where rehabilitation could be possible. I do object to keeping some on death row for 20-30 years when guilt is beyond any doubt and the perp confessed, dna etc....
As for the Boston bomber I was just saying it hardly matters if he got death penalty or not as it probably won't happen or if it does it will be 20-30 years later when the American public memory will have faded and the view will be softened by then and a new trial or trial by public opinion will hold it up yet again for another 10-15 years or so.
I know many people who are tired of the 'catch and release' justice that is prevalent in the US but cannot say so verbally because it is not politically correct to do so.
I do object as a taxpayer to inmates getting sex change operations on the taxpayers dime.
I object to inmates suing because they don't like the food or it goes against their religious beliefs. Hello! it is prison! it is not supposed to be pleasant. I am not saying they should be treated inhumanly but good grief.....
I do object of quite a few cases I know of personally where a guy goes to prison, gets his education all for free, gets out and refuses to pay his child support or works all under the table so there is no paper trail. I object to these same guys getting social welfare while they continue to party & do drugs all on the taxpayers dime while their ex wives and kids live in poverty. But now I am off subject.... the whole system is messed up.
Maybe if the judges, psychologist and the parole boards were held personally responsible when they let some of these dangerous ones back into society only to re-offend or they had the pedophiles living next door to them things would change.