I hope the guy can find a way to de-program the kids. Wishing this family well, poor kids.
Posts by carla
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Court Bars Kids From Jehovah's Witness Activities
by Bangalore incourt bars kids from jehovah's witness activities.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/64209712/court-bars-kids-from-jehovahs-witness-activitieshttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11375208bangalore.
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Do Jws even need Jesus?
by TTWSYF injust thinking out loud becauseof some things my elder brother has said in the past.
how his works help ensure his future w/the great crowd on earth.. .
well, i need jesus for my salvation,but perhaps some of you do not.. just asking.
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carla
Great responses and thanks to those who posted quotes from the org.
When my jw first joined up and for quite a few years after that he did not believe that Jesus was not for him but only for the anointed/fds/gb (pick your year of doctrines I guess). It amazed me that he did not understand this simple concept that he must hang on the coat-tails of the higher ups to somehow be approved to make it into the fictional jw paradise. All these years later he finally gets it, I think. It still has nothing to do with what mainstream Christianity thinks of when referring to 'salvation' and most jw's do not consider themeselves 'sinners' anyway, or what they call intentional sinners in need of salvation.
When I talk to mainstream Christians and tell them that the average rank and file jw cannot talk to Jesus (pray to Him) they think I must have it all wrong because after all, aren't jw's just a quirky little denomination who carry a Bible? most of them have no clue at all.
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carla
Hello Grace, Glad to see you posting again! Wishing you an early Merry Christmas in case I miss you later, carla
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Awarded a Badge of Honour - I'm an 'Apostate'
by Joe Grundy in(i never was a jw).. just had a d2d (fs) visit.
older guy (said he's been in since 1958 and is an elder) with a younger guy (20 or so).
looking out at the street i obviously drew the short straw because further down the street was a pair of not unattractive younger women jws.
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carla
Excellent job! The younger one may one day think about what you have said.
Maybe that is how the non jw community can reach more jw's, speak only to the 'secondary' jw at the door, make him/her answer instead of the more obnoxious one.
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2 Faced JWs and Thanksgiving
by minimus inmany jws enjoy turkey on thanksgiving day and are often discreet about their indulgences.
why be two faced?
why try to excuse it?.
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carla
I didn't, I gave up after he could not get past a 'new moon'. He was just deflecting because he could not answer anything with a reasonable answer. I naturally knew the jw reasons for things but once the glassy eyes and jw look came across his face there was no talking to him. Now, we try not to discuss anything jw and life is much better! Our kids who are all grown up now have also given up trying to reach him and do not allow him to bring jw literature into their homes. (and yes, had a lovely Thanksgiving with family at my house! shh, don't tell the elders)
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2 Faced JWs and Thanksgiving
by minimus inmany jws enjoy turkey on thanksgiving day and are often discreet about their indulgences.
why be two faced?
why try to excuse it?.
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carla
WingCommander pointed out the following scripture; "Colossians 2:16 says, "Therefore do not let anyone judge you by food, drink, a religious festival, New Moon celebration or Sabbath day." -- I brought this up to my jw years ago and he just freaked out about the 'new moon' thing and would not get over it. "You mean you think you can celebrate a new moon now??!!!!!!!" and on and on.......... totally ignored the rest of the scripture in usual jw fashion. Enough blustering and people give up because it feels much better to stop hitting your head against that wall.
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Why dont U.S. JW's Celelbrate Thanksgiving
by stan101 ini remeber the old young people ask book had an entry that explained why each holiday was bad.
i was searching for it today on jw.org and it looks like the new young people ask has ommited that section.
im just curiouse why jw's dont celebrate the holiday..
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carla
Because they are thankless lot! They would rather bitch about everything and how horrible everything is. Thanksgiving reminds some how blessed they really are and we all know jw's do not approve of a positive attitude towards life.
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carla
If they grabbed a shovel and shoveled their way to someone's door perhaps the householder would be willing to listen to the spiel! I think the Mormons would offer to shovel people out, they are helpful that way.
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Chuck Morse Interviews Barbara Anderson "WatchTowers CHILD ABUSE Reporting Policies"
by OUTLAW ini`ve just received this from barbara anderson..it`s her interview with radio personality chuck morse..thanks barbara!...
morse, who is known for his free-wheeling and insightful intellectual style, was named to the list of heavy 100 radio talk show hosts by talkers magazine, and as the national right to work committee communicator of the year in 2003.
"i have developed a reputation for inviting guests who express opinions on all sides of issues.
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carla
It would be nice if enough so called apostates (and others) would click on the video and make it go viral.
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"You have to find out her fears and exploit that. What is her worst fear?"
by cognac inliterally, a text message to my husband from one of his "friends".
he also wrote, "it's in her hands.
it's her move now.
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carla
In my thoughts Cognac, hope you are doing ok.
I don't understand why many of you think this was outrageous behavior for the jw friends, I thought this was par for the course and quite regular behavior on the part of jw's. It is my opinion anyway, from all the stories on the boards and my own experience with jw's when my jw first joined up and I was opposed. In fact it is exactly this kind of story that I relate when speaking about jw's to non jw's who know nothing about the org. To me this IS the cult mentality. This 'religion' regularly breaks up families and causes lifelong hurt and damage to relationships. They do not allow natural affections if it gets in the way of their agenda.
It can be fought and won but is a hellish ride in the meantime. The jw may still stay in but a truce of sorts can be found and life can continue and even be good, not the same but good nontheless. Relationships are never the same once jw's become involved.