insight into human behavior-the famous stanford prison experiment revisited

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  • Realist
    Realist

    Simulated Prison in '71 Showed a Fine Line Between `Normal' and `Monster'

    By JOHN SCHWARTZ alt
    Published: May 6, 2004

    I n 1971 researchers at Stanford University created a simulated prison in the basement of the campus psychology building. They randomly assigned 24 students to be either prison guards or prisoners for two weeks.

    Within days the "guards" had become swaggering and sadistic, to the point of placing bags over the prisoners' heads, forcing them to strip naked and encouraging them to perform sexual acts.

    The landmark Stanford experiment and studies like it give insight into how ordinary people can, under the right circumstances, do horrible things ? including the mistreatment of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

    What is the distance between "normal" and "monster"? Can anyone become a torturer?

    Such questions, explored over the decades by philosophers and social scientists, come up anew whenever shocking cases of abuse burst upon the national consciousness, whether in the interrogation room, the police station or the high school locker room.

    Hannah Arendt coined the phrase "banality of evil" to describe the very averageness of the Nazi leader Adolf Eichmann. Social psychologists pursued the question more systematically, conducting experiments that demonstrated the power of situations to determine human behavior.

    Dr. Philip G. Zimbardo, a leader of the Stanford prison study, said that while the rest of the world was shocked by the images from Iraq, "I was not surprised that it happened."

    "I have exact, parallel pictures of prisoners with bags over their heads," from the 1971 study, he said.

    At one point, he said, the guards in the fake prison ordered their prisoners to strip and used a rudimentary sex joke to humiliate them.

    Professor Zimbardo ended the experiment the next day, more than a week earlier than planned.

    Prisons, where the balance of power is so unequal, tend to be brutal and abusive places unless great effort is made to control the guards' base impulses, he said. At Stanford and in Iraq, he added: "It's not that we put bad apples in a good barrel. We put good apples in a bad barrel. The barrel corrupts anything that it touches."

    To the extent that the Abu Ghraib guards acted, as some have said, at the request of intelligence officers, other studies, performed 40 years ago by Dr. Stanley Milgram, then a psychology professor at Yale, can also offer some explanation, researchers said. In a series of experiments, he told test subjects that they were taking part in a study about teaching through punishment.

    The subjects were instructed by a researcher in a white lab coat to deliver electric shocks to another participant, the "student."

    Every time the student gave an incorrect answer to a question, the subject was ordered to deliver a shock. The shocks started small but became progressively stronger at the researcher's insistence, with labels on the machine indicating jolts of increasing intensity ? up to a whopping 450 volts.

    The shock machine was a cleverly designed fake, though, and the victims were actors who moaned and wailed. But to the test subjects the experience was all too real.

    Most showed anguish as they carried out the instructions. A stunning 65 percent of those taking part obeyed the commands to administer the electric shocks all the way up to the last, potentially lethal switch, marked "XXX."

    Dr. Charles B. Strozier, director of the Center on Terrorism and Public Safety at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, said the prison guards in Iraq might feel that the emotions of war and the threat of terrorism gave them permission to dehumanize the prisoners.

    "There has been a serious, siesmic change in attitude after 9/11 in the country in its attitude about torture," Dr. Strozier said, a shift that is evident in polling and in public debate. In the minds of many Americans, he said, "it's O.K. to torture now, to get information that will save us from terrorism."

    Craig W. Haney, a professor of psychology at the University of California, Santa Cruz, who was one of the lead researchers in the Stanford experiment, says prison abuses can be prevented by regular training and discipline, along with outside monitoring.

    Without outsiders watching, Professor Haney said, "what's regarded as appropriate treatment can shift over time," so "they don't realize how badly they're behaving."

    "If anything," he said, "the smiling faces in those pictures suggest a total loss of perspective, a drift in the standard of humane treatment."

    Experiments like those at Stanford and Yale are no longer done, in part because researchers have decided that they involved so much deception and such high levels of stress ? four of the Stanford prisoners suffered emotional breakdowns ? that the experiments are unethical.

  • patio34
    patio34

    Thanks Realist for posting that. I'm going to read more of it later. Do you have a link?

    Pat

  • Realist
    Realist

    hello patio!

    good to see you back!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/06/international/middleeast/06PSYC.html

    http://www.prisonexp.org/

    http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/relaged/970108prisonexp.html

    and here is a link to the Milgram Experiment which is at least equally if not more fascinating/disturbing:

    http://www.new-life.net/milgram.htm

  • patio34
    patio34

    Thanks Realist--but I'm here only in non-political threads for a while! Thanks for the links. It's good to have them tied into the present situation in Iraq.

    Cheers!

    Pat

  • Lady Lee
    Lady Lee

    I suppose my problem with the dehumanizing of any group is that once people no longer see that group as fellow human it allows anger and hatred of whell up and then for those emotionals to be acted out in very abusive ways.

    Abusers for example rarely look at their victims as a whole person. They focus on body parts or emotional reactions. Some might look at the face to gauge the amount of fear or pain but mostly they don't want to see that what they are doing is hurting another human being. Or their focus is on thier own actions not on the responses.

    This scares me. I think it is for this reason that so much political/racial/religious/etc. violence occurs in the world today. The "other" group is somehow "less than" and therefore it is acceptable to dehumanize them. Let's face it even the JWs do that with those who are apostates. Since we are no longer good evough to be saved by God then it is OK to treat us as if we were dead.

    I think the same goes for most of the violence we see around the world today. One country claims divine approval so therefore all other countries do not have God's blessing. Whether it is a country or a race of people or a religion or just the people in the next village this kind of dehumanizing allows one group to abuse/slaughter the next group.

    Sad

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    There have been similar studies showing the effects of clothing in group situations. Wearing uniforms, whilst establishing that a group has authority, can also lead the individual within the group to absolve personal responsibility for their own actions. If you are with a group and the group begins to torture someone, you're more likely to go along with the situation because the responsibility for the act is diffused in your mind (you think that the other group members are doing the wrong, not you. Similarly they blame you and absolve themselves).

    Prisons are talking about changing to not have uniforms, but I wonder if that is a good move...

    Sirona

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    With the exception of a very small minority, humans are not capable of killing other humans. This is why countries and military forces must "dehumanize" the enemy that will be attacked.

    Pay attention and you will notice that before a war, each side will try to make the other look like a monster in the eyes of its people. We were made to see the Taliban as monsters... this made it much more easy to kill them. We were made to see Saddam and his military as a monsters... this made it much more easy to kill them.

    When a person is put on death row, we are shown all of the horrible things they did... so that they will be reduced to a "monster". This makes "flipping the switch" a lot more easy.

    A human will not kill another human... but he will kill a monster... and with a great deal of eager

  • Realist
    Realist

    lady lee,

    yes i agree! dehumanizing makes it easier to kill someone.

    but as the milgram experiment shows...this is not even necessary as long as you can make an authority responsible for what you do. people simply don'T question what they do as long as they got the order to do it.

    sirona,

    yes it works also with placebos. if a patient is given a red pill from a man in a white suit the effect is stronger than when the person receives a white pill from a woman in normal clothing.

    elsewhere,

    man you are lucky that you got away with this statement without being ripped into shreds by some posters!!!

    but seriously...i 100% agree with what you say! when considering the discovered propaganda lies of the past i find it astounding how easy it is to fool people time and time again.

  • waiting
    waiting

    We've had these websites up for discussion before here - and the Milgram Experiment (which was done in over 6 countries at various times) is well worth considering again. An exceptionally high percentage of *average* persons will inflict pain (sometimes to the death stroke) if an authority figure tells them to do so. They may feel vaguely uneasy about it........but they'll do it anyway.

    As for the Stanford Experiment? One of the more intriguing aspects is that the Dr. conducting the experiment fell into the same *mindthink* as the guards and prisoners. He didn't realize it.....he became the Chief Warden and it was *his* prison. He didn't put a stop to the experiment until a visiting professor demanded he do so - and he argued vehemently against her. He just couldn't see his own partication. If memory serves, he married that professor later on. Smart man.

    When we viewed films about these experiments in psych class, the guy next to me kept nervously laughing outloud while people screamed (even though the Milgram participants weren't really hurt). His response wasn't because he enjoyed it (I think) - but because he was so uncomfortable comprehending the ramifications of the experiments.

    A majority of persons (even highly intelligent Stanford University students & professors) will conform. It's our human nature. And that was the point of that psch. chapter. Humans ain't that great of a species sometimes.

    waiting

  • waiting
    waiting
    At one point, he said, the guards in the fake prison ordered their prisoners to strip and used a rudimentary sex joke to humiliate them.
    Professor Zimbardo ended the experiment the next day, more than a week earlier than planned.

    *cough*................this news article gives (at least to me) the impression that Pro. Zimbardo "ended the experiment the next day" because of the behaviour of the guards against the prisoners.

    In this article, he & the reporter fail to mention that the professor participated in and was proud of his experiment - and argued against stopping his experiment.

    Following is a quote from the professor who innocently walked in on his experiment:

    After leaving the prison with Zimbardo, she said, he asked her what she thought of it. "I think he expected some sort of great intellectual discussion about what was going on. Instead, I started to have this incredible emotional outburst. I started to scream, I started to yell, 'I think it is terrible what you are doing to those boys!' I cried. We had a fight you wouldn't believe, and I was beginning to think, wait a minute, I don't know this guy. I really don't, and I'm getting involved with him?"
    Zimbardo was shocked by her reaction and upset, she said, but eventually that night, "he acknowledged what I was saying and realized what had happened to him and to other people in the study. At that point he decided to call the experiment to a halt."
    Says Zimbardo: "She challenged us to examine the madness she observed, that we had created and had to take responsibility for."

    http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/relaged/970108prisonexp.html

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