Nursing Homes Exclusively For JW's.

by Englishman 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • blondie
  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Rick,

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  • Rick Aust
    Rick Aust

    thanks blondie and englishman

  • Scully
    Scully

    "Application Form 2" is verry verrry interrestingk...

    OUTLINE OF FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES


    Do not be too personal. Information is needed for Social Services Assessment process. If a person has enough funds, they DO NOT have to be assessed by Social Services, but please check with Administration on this.

    Do they own their own property? YES NO

    Estimated value: £

    Do they have savings? YES NO

    Would they like to tell us how much?
    Above £16,000
    Between £10,000 - £16,000
    Below £10,000


    (This information has to be revealed to Social Services. If there is any hesitation to reveal this information DO NOT press for it. However it does help us to give accurate information on the present legislation with regard to the use of private funds when it comes to residential care:)
    ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON FINANCE:


    ANY OTHER RELEVANT INFORMATION FOR ADMISSION REGARDING PHYSICAL CIRCUMSTANCES AND HEALTH:

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Love the bit about owning their own home. Average UK price is now £125,000, about $200,000.

    Englishman.

  • nicolaou
    nicolaou

    For the record:


    Main Charity 1062023

    Click link for more details

    JAH-JIREH HOMES

    Charity CorrespondentMR E W DELANEY
    317 LYTHAM ROAD
    WARTON
    PRESTON
    PR4 1TE
    Telephone01772 633380
    Email Address[email protected]
    Website Addresswww.jah-jireh.org
    Governing DocumentTRUST DEED DATED 1 APRIL 1997
    ObjectsTHE PROVISION OF HOMES OF ELDERLY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WHO HAVE NEED BY REASON OF AGE, INFIRMITY OR ECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES
    Area of BenefitNOT DEFINED
    Area of OperationCharity Operates in locations in England and Wales
    GREATER MANCHESTER
    LANCASHIRE
    NATIONAL
    Registration History23 Apr 1997 Registered
    Classification
    WhatMedical/Health/Sickness
    Disability
    Accommodation/Housing
    Religious activities
    WhoElderly/Old People
    People with a disability/Special Needs
    Other defined groups
    HowMakes grants to individuals(includes loans)
    Provides human resource(eg staff/volunteers)
    Provides buildings/facilities/open space
    Provides services(eg care/counselling)

    Mailing & Submissions
    Mailing
    Cycle
    Financial YearAnnual ReturnAccounts
    Received
    StartEndIssuedReceived
    AR601 Jan 199731 Dec 199702 Dec 1997Below ThresholdBelow Threshold
    AR701 Jan 199831 Dec 199826 Feb 1999Below ThresholdBelow Threshold
    AR801 Jan 199931 Dec 199915 Mar 2000Below ThresholdBelow Threshold
    AR0001 Jan 200031 Dec 200005 Mar 200107 Jan 200205 Nov 2001
    AR0101 Jan 200131 Dec 200102 May 200228 Nov 200212 Sep 2002
    AR0201 Jan 200231 Dec 200201 May 200325 Jul 200325 Jul 2003
    AR0301 Jan 2003(estimated)31 Dec 2003(estimated)22 Jan 2004
    Financial History
    Financial Year StartFinancial Year EndGross IncomeTotal Expenditure
    01 Jan 199731 Dec 1997£114£0
    01 Jan 199831 Dec 1998£400£269
    01 Jan 199931 Dec 1999£350£2,106
    01 Jan 200031 Dec 2000£812,199£742,196
    01 Jan 200131 Dec 2001£1,894,455£1,703,644
    01 Jan 200231 Dec 2002£2,214,767£1,782,906
  • City Fan
    City Fan

    I think this sums up the difference between a care home run as a business and a voluntary care home:

    Care Homes: residential homes
    Most residential care homes are owned and run by organisations or individuals for profit. There are still a few which are owned by the local authority. Voluntary homes are run on a non-profit making basis by bodies such as registered charities or religious denominations.

    A normal run-for-profit nursing or residential home will need to ask questions about savings and assets as this affects the funding of a bed in the home and whether a bed is available or not. The number of purely social services run homes is declining and social services tend to rent rooms from privately run homes. Also a privately run care home will also have a registered charitable fund, to accept donations and to pay in money raised by events, summer fetes, bring-and-buy sales etc.

    I have no problem with some guy or woman deciding there was a gap in the market and opening some nursing homes solely for JWs. I think he'd be in trouble with 'equal oportunities' for the JW-only staffing policy though. They can ask for donations and could register as a charity to accept money.

    Just reading through the pages on the website has left me with a few questions. The way both charity and religion are stressed on the website makes it appear as though it is a voluntary religious home, in which case the figures quoted by Nicolau would be money to the Watchtower Society and not 'net profit' to an individual. But wouldn't the charity then be registered to the Watchtower Society?

    I also wonder if any finance or capital to open these homes has been borrowed from the WTS, the same way that loans are given to Kingdom Halls, which are then dedicated back to the Society once paid for?

    Interesting.

  • the nana
    the nana

    Englishman - I perceive you are a bitter man, once part of a target market. FYI my mother recently filled out a pension form, which asked the current value of her home, and also my income - because I still live at home. Well run to the hills Martha, I don't see any backlash on DWP forums !! Of course not. Forms that are filled out by people seeking care eventually form part of a legal agreement. But being a cynic now, you will seek (and find) another reason for this. I pity you.

  • Wordly Andre
    Wordly Andre

    Any Behavioural Problems: YES, Bites Elders

    HA HA HA,

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    Hi the nana & welcome!

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