Governing Buzzards - Part 7 - Did Rutherford have a Mistress? (page 2)

shadow

Sidepoint for sake of accuracy:

Golden Age came before Consolation

Amazing

Shadow,

Thanks for the correction ... my brain is getting dyslexic ... anyway, I made the change.

Well it is Larc here, and I think that some of you are just obtuse, especially you Minimus. I do like your questions they add a lot to our party, but let us analyze the situation. 1. Berta starts her career at the top of the organization, not at the bottom, like all other sisters. 2. She is hired as Rutherford's dietician, even though he already has one. The guy doesn't go to Europe and Beth Sarim, Berta does. Berta had no training whatsoever for this job. According to my cousin, Berta was the dumbest of the 6 children in her family, albeit, she was a classical beauty. 3. She wears scandalous underwear which would get a sister disfellowshipped today. 4. She lives at Beth Sarim until it was sold. Obviously, she was in good standing. 5. She left her husband in Ohio to move to Bethel. He had to file for divorce, and all the paper work was sent to Bethel. One thing I forgot to mention, my wife remembers Berta saying, Rutherford was like a husband to me, now now what does that mean? I used to be embarrassed about this, but I really don't care any more. Can I absolutely prove this. No, I have no photographs of them in bed, but I do think the circumstantial evidence is over whelming.

BeelzeDub

Larc,

I have no photographs of them in bed......

Do you have any photos of Berta at all?

larc

Yes, I do have a picture of Berta in a family albumn. It was taken after she left Beth Sarim and was dating the married naval officer. She was still very pretty at the time.

larc

Well, I guess this going to die in all of the volume here, so I will bring it back to the top.

Phil

There are TIME HONORED teachings in ALL religions that even Jehovah?s Witnesses accept and understand. Bible Students and their Jehovah?s Witness counterparts today have always condemned theft, lying, cheating, drunkenness, violence, adultery, and fornication to name a few. These acts are looked down on or totally condemned in all three Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. While the reaction and discipline vary in dealing with these offenses, they almost universally result in some level of sanctions and disapproval. Among Jehovah?s Witnesses, engaging in these acts is grounds for Disfellowshipping if unrepentant, and even if repentant, it is grounds for removal from any position of responsibility and example. Certainly, an Anointed leader who is head of

What happened to the Theocratic War Doctrine?

seeitallclearlynow

I love it, Amazing and larc - thanks. Great stuff.

Rutherford probably never slept with her, as perhaps he was impotent.

dustyb

personally i think all the whiskey and cigar's ate away his cock... but there are other ways for a man to please a woman.

Alf3831

When I first saw the heading of this post I thought some convincing evidence would be brought out to show that at least in all probability, the Judge did have a mistress. In reading the post, it leaves much to be desired. Sexy underwear that she was wearing in the 1960's? Cmon, Rutherford had been dead for 20 years and you show that as some sort of proof? Granted there seems to be some issues here regarding a sort of favortism on the part of Rutherford. However, this was very common back then. Some may recall that Rutherford's secretary was given the opportunity to remain a bethelite, even though she had married. How about Bert Schroeder (Family and all) being a recent University of Michigan grad and brought into bethel, and being amongst the first instructors at Gilead. Such arrangements are nothing out of the ordinary. Also, we have been given no evidence of the reasons why this individual divorced her husband. This special pleading is an attempt to simply paint a negative picture of the Judge, without a substantive foundation.

The post seemed to imply that only Rutherford and his dietician were amongst the Beth-Sarim residents. However, it has been well-documented that Beth-Sarim had many regular visitors, and a staff that lived with Rutherford. No mention is given of the Balko family, with their two children who maintained the grounds and had dinner at Beth-Sarim on a regular basis. Dan Sydlik mentioned meeting Rutherford at Beth-Sarim in the 6/1/85 Watchtower. Sandra Cowen, a JW in San Diego mentioned going to Beth Sarim often and mentions that there were full-time servants (WT, 3/1/92). The May 27, 1942 Consolation also discusses that a staff was maintained at Beth-Sarim. This is not to mention of William Heath, who was Rutherford's secretary before his death and stayed at the residence along with his wife. I also interviewed a James Smitha back in 1995, who was a bethelite from 1934-1936, and discussed spending several days with Rutherford and his staff at Beth-Sarim back in 1933.

Now, with all these regular visitors, including the San Diego witnesses, Knorr, and others visiting regularly, and the full-time staff at the residence. Also, the fact that for 12 years he only spent his winters there, you think he was able sneek around with his dietician?

BTW, Mary Rutherford lived in Monrovia, California which is just about a 100 mile trek to the north. So we have no idea if there was any communication there. She remained an active Jehovah's Witness until her death in 1962.

Also, Malcolm Rutherford was involved with the Los Angeles Ecclesia up until the early 1930's. I have confirmed this during an interview with a member of that congregation who knew Malcolm and his wife. Apparently there was a split in this congregation, and subsequently Malcolm no longer attended. He was an attorney in Los Angeles and died in 1989. Just for the record, it is well-documented that he refused interviews from both Jehovah's Witnesses and their opposers (Duane Muagini, being one of them).

Alf3831

Governing Buzzards - Part 7 - Did Rutherford have a Mistress?

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